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    I read with interest Glen Casada's article about Smokies Flyfishing Myths in the last issue of the Little River Journal. One of the points he made was that 9 or even 10-foot rods should be used. I would appreciate a list of at least some of the rods that he recommends.

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    Hi Smctrout,

    I agree that Jim was right on in his article. I started fishing in the Smokies a long time ago and thought at the time I needed a short 6' to 7 1/2' rod. I was wrong. They are in my closet now and I never use them. I don't think there is a list that would fit his preferences but an 8 1/2 foot to 10 foot rod would be fine to fish here. I would choose a 5 or 6 weight if you want to go long, up to 10 feet. That way you could use it for other species and on large streams with big flies. You would need to make the decision based on your preferences as to fast or slow. I would choose a slow rod for roll casting and tippet protection in the Park. I use a 8' 3" 4 weight or 8.5' 5 weight when I fish in the Park.

    Byron

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    I picked up a 9' 4wt St. Croix Avid from LRO earlier this year and love it. I started fishing with a 7'6" 3wt TFO a few years back and really liked, but I never seem to take it with me to the Mtns anymore. The extra length really helps with mending and keeping more flyline off the water...

    Go big or go home!

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    I have been considering a St. Croix Avid 9' 5wt.,I'm glad to see that you like it Pete.
    I've been using a TFO 7'9" 4 wt. and although on really tight places I like it,when there's room to get out farther I find the need for a longer rod.
    I fished for 40 years with a 9' fiberglass Wright and McGill,and the reach is there when you need it.

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    I am glad this has been brought up. I am trying to decide on a rod of longer length myself. I like to do deep nymphing and swinging heavy buggers through deep holes. Since casting isn't a real issue in the smokies which would be better a medium action style rod of a faster. I am trying to decide between a Sage Z axis or a ZXL by sage.
    Romans 10:9-10 KJV

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyred06 View Post
    I am glad this has been brought up. I am trying to decide on a rod of longer length myself. I like to do deep nymphing and swinging heavy buggers through deep holes. Since casting isn't a real issue in the smokies which would be better a medium action style rod of a faster. I am trying to decide between a Sage Z axis or a ZXL by sage.
    Depending on your casting style, one could go fast or slow.

    Two rods you really should consider and test cast if you can are the 9' 5wt Scott G2 and the 9' 4wt Winston BIIt.

    These two rods have become my go to rods. Niether are fast but they are not slow either.

    Just a thought.

    Jeff

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    Quote Originally Posted by smctrout View Post
    I read with interest Glen Casada's article about Smokies Flyfishing Myths in the last issue of the Little River Journal. One of the points he made was that 9 or even 10-foot rods should be used. I would appreciate a list of at least some of the rods that he recommends.
    smctrout--When I first saw this post I thought maybe I had a long-lost cousin, and then when I read the material I realized you had likely confused my first name with that of a Tennessee legislator. Just wanted to clarify that I'm about as far removed from anything involving politics as one can possibly be.
    That being said, you've gotten some useful answers and/or suggestions on makes and types of longer rods.
    I would add one additional thought revolving around actions: (1) You'll pop more flies off with a fast-action rod (or at least I will) than with a medium-action one. (2) A really slow-action rod of the kind you once got with fiberglass is very forgiving on the hookset but doesn't roll cast particularly well and requires better timing when it comes to casting in general. (3) My personal preference is a medium- to medium-slow action, but that's more because I still, after 60 years astream, have a pronounced penchant to set the hook too hard at times. Do that with a fast, stiff action and you'll have parting of the ways aplenty.
    Jim Casada
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    P. S. I'm sort of relieved to see that some others agree with me, because every time I bring the subject up in seminars I raise the hackles of someone or the other who swears by a one-weight fairy wand about six feet in length. My response is simple--if that's what you like best, by all means use it.

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    I must ask this question, (forgive my ignorance), which is better for the mending and nymphing with indicators? A faster rod or a more medium rod? My biggest problem when fishing moving water is getting good mends. I been told with yarn indicators and double nymph rigs faster rods but is that true? I am really confussed. I have about 10 rods and my favorite is my 8'6" winston 5wt im6 but I am hearing I need a faster rod like the z axis.
    Romans 10:9-10 KJV

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    Jim,
    I guess when it comes to the "fairy wands",wouldn't you think that the newer generations have made them more popular?
    By that I mean when I was coming up in the late 50s and through the 60s,all we had were the cane poles,bamboo,and fiberglass...at least when it came to po' boys like me.Although I wasn't into the fly fishing in the mountains,when it comes to a long "pole",that's what we always called them,a long stiff one was the norm,and so it doesn't seem like a big step backwards to use one that's 9' or so in length.
    It's only been since I got interested in mountain fishing that I've seen the difference of light years that's progressed in flyrods.If I wasn't "afeared" of being laughed at,I would use the long fiberglass pole sometimes.
    Rick

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