I went to Paint Creek today. I wanted to go upstream farther to look for the wild browns, but the weather wasn't very pleasant so I stayed near the truck. I caught 7 bows and 4 six inch varmint fish (redhorse i think). I caught one good bow. The tape said 17 and 7/8 inches. Of course I have to say 18 so it sounds better though. In the pic the rod is a couple inches higher and makes it look shorter. Here ya go.