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    How many different types of midges do you fish. I saw you said tie with V rib . do you fish zibras aswell? And if your willing to offer to share whats in your box what sizes do you fish ie. 18-22 and what colors?

    The reason I ask is I think I'm getting to carried away with my midges tying things differently, don't know if its really nessary.

    Thanks and others feel free to answer as well.

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    Rodney

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    I have one pattern that I make in 3 different colors, and these are in order that I use first to last olive,black and brown. All tied from 16- 24. Yes I have red, cream etc. as well as paterns as small as 32( just to see if I can) But day in and day out I'll start with an olive 18 and probaly wont change all day until it tears up,which is good or I loose it to a fish.I hope I didnt take up someone elses space but this game isnt as hard as it sounds. Keep it simple and show that fish your fly as many times as you can, He'll take.
    Lynn

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    Do you use beads? if so what is your fav color

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    Black5/64 tungsten and smaller

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    My box is so simple it is laughable. I really carry 2 different patterns to the Clinch. I carry PT's, all with beads of different colors, and in 2 sizes 16's and 18's. There is a small window when 16's work well, and that corresponds with sulfurs. Other then that time period, 18's are the rule.

    On the midges, very simple, I carry one. A dark olive v-rib midge with a black bead tied on an 18 TMC 2488. Those who used to buy them at the Creel when I worked there, might remember them. I tied them for Scott, to make a little gas money to get to the river. The pattern originated from Scott I believe, and it was just a simpler way to tie an effective fly invented by Ron Whaley, eons ago.

    I firmly believe I or anyone else can carry those flies any day of the year to the Clinch and out fish any other pattern which someone might be using. Dead of winter, through the heat of summer.

    All the other patterns can be left at the house, sure you can catch fish on them, but why fight with the madness when it is totally unnecessary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterwolf View Post
    My box is so simple it is laughable. I really carry 2 different patterns to the Clinch. I carry PT's, all with beads of different colors, and in 2 sizes 16's and 18's. There is a small window when 16's work well, and that corresponds with sulfurs. Other then that time period, 18's are the rule.

    On the midges, very simple, I carry one. A dark olive v-rib midge with a black bead tied on an 18 TMC 2488. Those who used to buy them at the Creel when I worked there, might remember them. I tied them for Scott, to make a little gas money to get to the river. The pattern originated from Scott I believe, and it was just a simpler way to tie an effective fly invented by Ron Whaley, eons ago.

    I firmly believe I or anyone else can carry those flies any day of the year to the Clinch and out fish any other pattern which someone might be using. Dead of winter, through the heat of summer.

    All the other patterns can be left at the house, sure you can catch fish on them, but why fight with the madness when it is totally unnecessary?
    Wolf,

    My Clinch box is very similar to yours, just a couple differences:
    BHPT (16 - 18 ) all with a black bead
    Zebra midges (18 - 22) in red & black
    Olive Stretch Tubing Midge (no name) (18 - 22)
    Brassies (18 - 20)
    Olive/Black woolly buggers (6 - 10) tied using TMC 777SP and tungsten conehead

    That is it for the Clinch, and those flies will catch fish year round. I have tried making it more confusing over the years by making various patterns that mimic the same thing, but have learned that those basic patterns work great.
    Last edited by ChemEAngler; 03-27-2010 at 10:11 AM. Reason: Apparently if you put 8) it turns into a smiley

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterwolf View Post
    My box is so simple it is laughable. I really carry 2 different patterns to the Clinch. I carry PT's, all with beads of different colors, and in 2 sizes 16's and 18's. There is a small window when 16's work well, and that corresponds with sulfurs. Other then that time period, 18's are the rule.
    Wolf,
    I remember fishing with John Emert once over on the Clinch, and he said the only fly he ever used was that silly looking BH hairball pattern in #16. But he absolutely killed them using it. Do you remember that fly of his? I was probably tying 8 or 10 dozen of those things a week for the shop. It didn't look like anything and I could tie a dozen in probably 5 minutes. I haven't used it on the Clinch lately, but can definitely vouch for its effectiveness on the Holston and Hiwassee.

    I think the most important thing on the Clinch is presentation. Somebody using a 9' 4X leader typically is not going to catch as many fish as somebody using a 12' 6X fluoro leader when drifting nymphs. But if the person using the 12' 6X fluoro rig doesn't know how to properly present the fly and get a dead drift, then I will put my money of the other guy. I think a properly presented fly that may be a size too large is much better than a perfect imitation that doesn't look natural.

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