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    Quote Originally Posted by Crockett View Post
    Something you pick up in the monroe county jail I think
    Not speaking from personal experience are ya Adam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mundele View Post
    Not speaking from personal experience are ya Adam?

    Ouch dude.....

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    Correct me if I am wrong but I thought that Hazel was the only creek in which carts are allowed.

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    Oldman--Nope, they are allowed on a couple of other drainages on the North Shore. I didn't know this until I stumbled over it somewhere in the Park's labyrinthine regulations. The fishing regulations are the essence of simplicity but the backcountry usage regs are extraordinarily complex, a situation which is not helped a great deal by phones which go unanswered or are constantly busy, and additionally troubling is what to me at least is a web presence which is exceptionally difficult to navigate.
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    I found the reg under the Rules and Regulation for the GSMNP. Section 1.5(a)(2). Says Hazel, Noland (only up to cs#64 only 4 miles up) and Forney(only up to cs#74 which is at the mouth). So with the exception of Noland and only at the mouth of Forney, they are not allowed except anywhere on Hazel. Also, it gave a maximun LH and W requirement which is 48"L,24"W and 18"H.

    Thanks Mr. Casada I learned something today.

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    Thanks for pointing this out. I was also under the impression that Hazel Creek was the only stream where carts are allowed.
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    Jason--I think most everyone thinks that Hazel Creek is the only cart creek. Noland actually lends itself quite nicely to "buggy" usage. About the only steep grade all the way up to the Mill Creek area comes right at the start (when the eager camper is as frisky as he'll ever be).
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrouseMan77 View Post
    Don't forget that the lake levels are dropping and there might be a bit of a climb to the trailhead. The banks will probably be a little muddy as well. Nothing like trying to drag a bunch of gear up hill through red clay.
    On the new Trails Illustrated Map (No. 316) a note appears next to Fontana Lake which reads "Lake shorelines may vary 0.5 mile seasonally."
    Since the TVA web site states that the reservoir provides 238 miles of shoreline and it appears there are only a few places where it is over 0.5 mile wide, I'm having trouble getting my head around the note.

    Can someone explain what it means?

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    It's simple TVA drops the lake therefore it makes more shoreline we paddled to 90 on Eagle Creek this past weekend we had to walk about 0.5 mile to get to the campsite up a steep muddy bank. 2 months ago we were there and paddled right to the site. hope I answered your question.

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    Thanks, spotlight. That was the only way I was coming up with a 0.5 mile change. Whereas they most certainly stated it in correct technical terms, I was thinking the wording might have been something like "lake feeder streams may extend 0.5 miles more in length seasonally," but I am admittedly more of creek bed kinda thinker than a shoreline kinda thinker." Then there are the lake half empty and lake half full type thinkers.

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