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Thread: Cherokee Trophy Water License Increase

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    I hate to pile on the Cherokee here even though they are making the wrong decision but I will. Cherokee seems like a sad cross between gatlinburg and newport. It is depressing driving through and seeing all those neat looking 1950s hotels rotting away next to endless cheap souvenier shops. Neal you are right I don't know what it is but I can never find a good meal there short of Pete's pancake place (which is ok). Bryson city or Maggie Valley are a lot better as far as food goes over on that side. I too wanted to fish the trophy section but I sure would feel like a fool to pay $75 and get skunked (if I pay that much it is sure to happen to me).

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    I was never interested in fishing it anyway. Just not my thing.
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    Especially when cat food gets thrown off of the bridge every day at noon

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    I'm not trying to convert anybody to liking it because it really isn't my thing either but I managed to hook several nice fish no where close to the bridges and main pull offs. I can't imagine being there with nice weather and the crowds though.

    I just went to the site where you can renew your license and they now offer a 3 day C&R pass for $25 so you aren't forced to pay the $75 for the whole year.

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    for $25 I was able to deal with limited spots to get into, almost elbow to elbow & guys wading past you to get to a spot above you.......but for $75 I would have better odds at the casino. I can be elbow to elbow in G-Burg with the same results I had last 2 times... It was kinda fun for the anticipation of a hog.....but not "$50 more" fun
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    Yep. $75 is over the top. I think they'll find that they're hurting their profit instead of helping it. More money per person, but much less people...

    Come to the Davidson, Tuck, Nantahala, or Wilson Creek for the price of an NC license. There are some big fish being caught in all of the above. While I loved fishing in Cherokee, it's not on my list anymore.

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    I should have elaborated a little as to the reason it's not really my thing. I'd rather catch fish in streams that might see a couple hundred fisherman in a year not a couple hundred in a single day. If hooking into a larger fish in a mountain setting means rubbing elbows and throwing "corn kernel flies" I'm just not interested.

    One guy used to tell me all the time about how great it was fishing the mountains and catching "those hawgs". He probably misses fishing the Cross Eye'd Cricket.
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    Ok guys while it would be highly unlikely that I would go there to fish either at that price I am going to play devils advocate since no one else seems to be willing to on this issue.

    Have any of you thought of the possibility that this is not about making more money but instead about protecting the fishery and increasing fisherman satisfaction by lowering the amount of people on the river at a given time? Yes they could limit the amount of licenses sold per day/week/month/year however if they were to do this people would likely cry foul and maybe even try to sue (even though the Cherokee would likely win in this scenario it still costs large amounts of money for a good defense atty) Instead they dramatically raise the price of a licence therefore lowering the amount of anglers while still allowing those that really want to fish the area to have access. Another benefit is that those that feel it is worth spending that much cash to have access also likely respect the privilege more and take better care of the area potentially lowering upkeep costs to the reserve. Ultimately they own the land and the waters and can do whatever they like including the banning of all fishing by non Native Americans if they wanted to. Also we all need to remember at one time they controlled all the land in the area and were forced by threat of death to retreat to this relatively small patch of land by our nations ancestors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helix149 View Post
    Ok guys while it would be highly unlikely that I would go there to fish either at that price I am going to play devils advocate since no one else seems to be willing to on this issue.

    Have any of you thought of the possibility that this is not about making more money but instead about protecting the fishery and increasing fisherman satisfaction by lowering the amount of people on the river at a given time? Yes they could limit the amount of licenses sold per day/week/month/year however if they were to do this people would likely cry foul and maybe even try to sue (even though the Cherokee would likely win in this scenario it still costs large amounts of money for a good defense atty) Instead they dramatically raise the price of a licence therefore lowering the amount of anglers while still allowing those that really want to fish the area to have access. Another benefit is that those that feel it is worth spending that much cash to have access also likely respect the privilege more and take better care of the area potentially lowering upkeep costs to the reserve. Ultimately they own the land and the waters and can do whatever they like including the banning of all fishing by non Native Americans if they wanted to. Also we all need to remember at one time they controlled all the land in the area and were forced by threat of death to retreat to this relatively small patch of land by our nations ancestors.
    helix149 - It would be great if today's Cherokee was purely interested in raising funds to protect their fishery and their land. But, I kinda doubt that this is the case.

    I should say that I have not personally fished there but have driven by to see what the deal was. In my opinion, the fee is just another way for the council to make money. I do believe that the Native American people were wronged and they should have been treated better. I also think that some are trying to play catch up and are looking at making money anyway they can. People love to blow money on fly fishing...just like gambling.
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    Im sorry I did not make it clear however I guess I will now. I am not taking sides with the posting I made as I rarely if ever trout fish. I typically FLY fish for predatory and warm-water fish such as carp or smallies and this coming year will be targeting gar, musky and striper as well. I simply posted to play devils advocate and provide a possibly different scenario to the one that appears to be assumed by the previous posters. I did this to hopefully prompt more of a discussion instead of simply a bashing thread that does nothing to help the situation and only has the potential to make it worse if someone from the reservation were to come to the thread and read the posts.

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