I don't subscribe to the creating an artificial hatch either. I agree trout are in tune with their surroundings. I would enjoy seeing a video if one exists.
Heck it could just be THE missing link. hahaaha
I'm not trying to offend anyone, just a difference of opinion I suppose.
It is a worthy thing to try however, the only way to test the theory would be to take a green drake of some other odd ball imitation which generally won't work, and try it to see if it will work.
I'm going to the Clinch tomorrow and throwing all my crappy flies in the water upstream and then running downstream and wait on the pseudo-hatch to get them going. Recycling with a purpose.....I like it!
I am a great admirer of spectator sports, especially on television; it keeps the riffraff off the trout streams.
The idea is NOT to go out there and try to fool a trout with a green drake or other 'odd ball imitation' but instead to simulate a hatch that is currently in cycle. Heck, I don't even fish a green drake and yet there are rare hatches of drakes in the mountains. It is just not worth the effort and it is best to concentrate on stronger patterns. For instance, say quill gordons have been hatching recently but don't happen to come out when you are on the water. With the right timing and technique you can get the trout in a run coming up and taking your quill gordon dry consistently if you know what you are doing, even without a 'hatch' going on...
Last edited by tnflyfisher; 05-11-2012 at 12:01 PM.
I can see WW point...cause if you are already throwing a bug that's in season and the fish are already tuned onto it, are you really forcing an untimely response from the fish to deviate from its normal behavior? If its taking a bunch of cast for the fish to take a fly that is already in season, seems to me it could be more about getting the presentation right.
In the park, I think the fish are a bit more opportunistic and would eat most buggy looking flies if presented right, year around, hatch or not. I don't know if its forcing a hatch for them as much as its - "hey it looks food and acts like food, might be food-get it before its gone" I think that's why general/generic patterns and attractor patterns works so well.
Regardless, to me one of the beautiful facets of fly fishing is the ability to make it your own. And as such - to each his own.
May you find a rise in every puddle... - WATERBORN
Can a person go to the Clinch and catch a fish at 8 am on a sulfur dry right now? Absolutely, they are aware the bugs are hatching and are keyed into their presence, so they will take one if presented properly.
However, some of the fish won't until the nymphs become active, and adults begin to show up on the surface.
This goes back to the perpetual view that trout are stupid. In other words, some if not most can't remember what happen 12 hours ago, and it takes a good number of bugs to get them in the groove of eating them every day.
Thank god for the dumb ones with short memories, if not it might be impossible to catch more than 1-2 a trip.
Fellas, I respect all of your opinions and I enjoy learning from them as well.
One thing to think of...Any pattern you throw and catch fish on is mimicking some type of aquatic activity or stimulating a reaction from trout. The patterns that generally work the most are in tune to the recent benthic activity.
That being said; what feeding trait tells the trout when it is time to start taking dry flies(?) In my opinion, it is an increased presence of emergent nymphs and actual adults on the water. There are correlating factors that trout could unknowingly relate as well-such as temperature, sunlight %, pH, oxygen content, etc...However; I think these factors are less influential than the basic desire to feed. As of recent; I have not witnessed any massive hatches. Most are limited and consist of a dry floating by every minute or two...So; it is very easy to repetitively induce a dry fly in to a feeding lie to simulate a hatch.
Fortunately; my personality is inventive and open to learning. I could not imagine fly fishing with 2-3 patterns and find that stimulating. But, that is the beauty of life and in choosing a fishing partner. I generally surround myself with positive and innovative people. Most of all; I shun negativity with a passion as it will eventually poison the soul and all those around it...
I Like this quote and I hope it some may enjoy it as well..."We all operate in two contrasting modes, which might be called open and closed. The open mode is more relaxed, more receptive, more exploratory, more democratic, more playful and more humorous. The closed mode is the tighter, more rigid, more hierarchical, more tunnel-visioned. Most people, unfortunately spend most of their time in the closed mode. Not that the closed mode cannot be helpful. If you are leaping a ravine, the moment of takeoff is a bad time for considering alternative strategies. When you charge the enemy machine-gun post, don't waste energy trying to see the funny side of it. Do it in the "closed" mode. But the moment the action is over, try to return to the "open" mode—to open your mind again to all the feedback from our action that enables us to tell whether the action has been successful, or whether further action is need to improve on what we have done. In other words, we must return to the open mode, because in that mode we are the most aware, most receptive, most creative, and therefore at our most intelligent."— John Cleese.
-Shawn Madison“Every human has four endowments- self awareness, conscience, independent will, & creative imagination.
These give us the ultimate human freedom... The power to choose, to respond, to change.”