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Thread: TVA River's-TVA Meeting May 27, 2014

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    Thanks for the update. I believe the House passed a Sportsman Act in February 2014, but it did not have anything for the funding of hatcheries. Hopefully the House will agree to the Senate amendment if the bill with the amendment passes the Senate. Getting the House and Senate to agree on a common bill can be tough. Thanks again.
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    I just got back from a tarpon trip to FL. The guide stated that the state of FL estimates that a tarpon is worth $2200 in money brought into the state for gas, guides, food, lodging, etc, etc. $1400 for a redfish.

    Do you think TVA, TWRA, or any of the counties that are LUCKY enough to have a trout tailwater are aware of how much money is brought into the state and counties from fishermen seeking quality trout?
    I am a great admirer of spectator sports, especially on television; it keeps the riffraff off the trout streams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat Fly n View Post
    I just got back from a tarpon trip to FL. The guide stated that the state of FL estimates that a tarpon is worth $2200 in money brought into the state for gas, guides, food, lodging, etc, etc. $1400 for a redfish.

    Do you think TVA, TWRA, or any of the counties that are LUCKY enough to have a trout tailwater are aware of how much money is brought into the state and counties from fishermen seeking quality trout?
    They either have no clue, or would lie about how it doesn't impact the local economy. At least I could see TWRA saying that

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    I found this link to a TWRA report from 2002 that gives a dollar estimate per angler per day for the tailwaters. The values are much lower than the Florida values mentioned in the recent posts to this thread:
    https://www.tn.gov/twra/fish/StreamR...0Fisheries.pdf
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    UPDATE: JUNE 26, 2014

    Yesterday the Senate inched along on the BILL 2363 BIPATRISIAN SPORSTMAN ACT 2014 which the amendment SA. 3240, concerning Trout Stocking is attached to.
    Below is yesterdays action:

    113th Congress (2013-2014)Bill
    Sponsor:
    Sen. Hagan, Kay [D-NC] (Introduced 05/20/2014)Latest Action:06/25/2014 Cloture motion on the motion to proceed to the measure presented in Senate



    Now I had to look up cloture to see what that was and that defintion is below:

    cloture - The only procedure by which the Senate can vote to place a time limit on consideration of a bill or other matter, and thereby overcome a filibuster. Under the cloture rule (Rule XXII), the Senate may limit consideration of a pending matter to 30 additional hours, but only by vote of three-fifths of the full Senate, normally 60 votes.

    So long story short: Rome is not built in a day! Ahhh... politics you gotta have a program to truly enjoy the play!

    As I mentioned before, we have to plan ahead, if it passes thru the Senate, than the House of Representatives than reviews and votes yes or no. Below is a link to all the Tennessee House of Representatives:

    The thing I do not like it links you to their email, but only when you put in the zip code and it matches your congressman or congresswoman's district will it proceed. Their websites mention I can only respond to my district members. So if you are a Tennessee resident look for your congressman or congressman, you can always google to see who that is if you do not know. The Senators can be reached by email no matter where you live, maybe they have the staff to respond to all , who knows. Please let your representative know your feelings in advance especially if it passes the Senate and proceeds to the House.

    Tennessee in the 113th Congress
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    To retrieve much more detailed biographical and contact information about a given Congressmember, click on the member's name.

    Residents of Tennessee are represented in Congress by 2 Senators and 9 Representatives. Member NameDC PhoneDC FAXContact FormSenator Lamar Alexander (R- TN) 202-224-4944202-228-3398http://www.alexander.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=Em Senator Bob Corker (R- TN) 202-224-3344202-228-0566http://www.corker.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/contactmeRepresentative Phil Roe (R - 01) 202-225-6356202-225-5714http://roe.house.gov/contact/Representative John J. Duncan, Jr. (R - 02) 202-225-5435202-225-6440https://duncan.house.gov/contact-me/email-meRepresentative Chuck Fleischmann (R - 03) 202-225-3271202-225-3494https://fleischmann.house.gov/contact-me/email-meRepresentative Scott DesJarlais (R - 04) 202-225-6831202-226-5172http://desjarlais.house.gov/contact/Representative Jim Cooper (D - 05) 202-225-4311202-226-1035https://cooper.house.gov/contact/email-meRepresentative Diane Black (R - 06) 202-225-4231202-225-6887https://black.house.gov/contact-me/email-meRepresentative Marsha Blackburn (R - 07) 202-225-2811202-225-3004https://blackburn.house.gov/contactform/default.aspxRepresentative Stephen Fincher (R - 0 202-225-4714202-225-1765https://fincher.house.gov/contact/email-meRepresentative Steve Cohen (D - 09) 202-225-3265202-225-5663https://cohen.house.gov/contact-me/email-me

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNflyfishing View Post
    I found this link to a TWRA report from 2002 that gives a dollar estimate per angler per day for the tailwaters. The values are much lower than the Florida values mentioned in the recent posts to this thread:
    https://www.tn.gov/twra/fish/StreamR...0Fisheries.pdf

    Tnfly thanks for the link, below is a link to TWRA whcih has this years Fisheries Report 2014 (2013 stats ). Bear in mind this does not have angelers survey this is info on Region 4 and is 191 pages (great reading for insomniacs). It can be viewed online or downloadds as PDF, I received a softbound copy by Jeff Habera one of the writers of the report at the Clinch TU chapter meeting a month or so ago. It actuially is an interesting read not only the stats for each river in this region, but the state of the river in TWRA's view. If you want diffrent region's report look on menu and can download those areas reports also.

    http://twra4streams.homestead.com/troutreport.html

    thanks again for the info!
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    Good work and info.....Thanks.
    I am a great admirer of spectator sports, especially on television; it keeps the riffraff off the trout streams.

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    Thanks for the heads up guys. I've emailed my rep about this. Hopefully the funding continues.

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    Default Update: July 7,2014

    UPDATE:July 7, 2014

    Yesterday the Senate met and took a vote to move to proceed to close debate on the 2014 Bipartisan Bill which the amendment for Trout Stocking is attached. This is a positive step towards putting to a vote the bill which as I have mentioned than proceeds to the House of Representatives where it is put for a vote, than on to the President. Below is a copy of yesterdy's 82 yeas and 12 nays, with Senator Alexander, and Senator Corker in the yea party so thanks to them. This simply moves towards the first required vote in the Senate but it is forward motion and we will take it!

    BIPARTISAN SPORTSMEN’S ACT
    OF 2014—MOTION TO PROCEED—
    Continued
    The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senate
    will resume legislative session and
    consideration of the motion to proceed
    to S. 2363, which the clerk will report.
    The bill clerk read as follows:
    Motion to proceed to Calendar No. 384, S.
    2363, a bill to protect and enhance opportunities
    for recreational hunting, fishing, and
    shooting, and for other purposes.
    CLOTURE MOTION
    The PRESIDING OFFICER. Pursuant
    to rule XXII, the Chair lays before the
    Senate the pending cloture motion,
    which the clerk will state.
    The bill clerk read as follows:


    C
    LOTURE MOTION

    We, the undersigned Senators, in accordance
    with the provisions of rule XXII of the
    Standing Rules of the Senate, hereby move
    to bring to a close debate on the motion to
    proceed to Calendar No. 384, S. 2363, a bill to
    protect and enhance opportunities for recreational
    hunting, fishing, and shooting, and
    for other purposes.
    Harry Reid, Kay R. Hagan, Richard J.
    Durbin, Michael F. Bennet, Debbie Stabenow,
    Ron Wyden, Joe Donnelly, Patrick
    J. Leahy, Angus S. King, Jr., Mark
    Begich, Tim Kaine, Robert P. Casey,
    Jr., Sherrod Brown, Tom Harkin,
    Christopher A. Coons, Amy Klobuchar,
    Heidi Heitkamp.
    The PRESIDING OFFICER. By unanimous
    consent the mandatory quorum
    call has been waived.
    The question is, Is it the sense of the
    Senate that debate on the motion to
    proceed to Calendar No. 384, S. 2363, a
    bill to protect and enhance opportunities
    for recreational hunting, fishing,
    and shooting, and for other purposes,
    shall be brought to a close?
    The yeas and nays are mandatory
    under the rule.
    The clerk will call the roll.
    The bill clerk called the roll.
    Mr. DURBIN. I announce that the
    Senator from Alaska (Mr. B


    EGICH), the

    Senator from Louisiana (Ms. L


    ANDRIEU),

    and the Senator from Hawaii
    (Mr. S


    CHATZ) are necessarily absent.

    Mr. CORNYN. The following Senators
    are necessarily absent: the Senator
    from Arizona (Mr. F


    LAKE), the Senator

    from Georgia (Mr. I


    SAKSON), and the

    Senator from Louisiana (Mr. V


    ITTER).

    The PRESIDING OFFICER. Are there
    any other Senators in the Chamber desiring
    to vote?
    The yeas and nays resulted—yeas 82,
    nays 12, as follows:
    [Rollcall Vote No. 218 Leg.]
    YEAS—82
    Alexander
    Ayotte
    Baldwin
    Barrasso
    Bennet
    Blunt
    Boozman
    Brown
    Burr
    Cantwell
    Carper
    Casey
    Chambliss
    Coats
    Cochran
    Collins
    Coons

    Corker
    Last edited by bigsur; 07-08-2014 at 01:05 PM.
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    UPDATE JULY 9, 2014:

    We have received notice that a story will run in the local Knoxville community paper Metro Pulse, concerning the TVA Trout Strocking
    funding issue. The free print paper copy should be available in local stores and restaurants tommorrow along with the online edition
    at metropulse.com in the outdoor life section. I greatly appreciate the interest from our local reporter Kim Trevathan and I think it will be an informative article.
    "It starts with a raindrop, don't let it end with a teardrop!"

    "Nothing straightens out my mind like a twisting mountain stream!"

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