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    Default Weight and the fly

    Good day to all,

    Can anyone shed some light on how to add weight to fly on the stream?

    Thanks for your help

    Patrick

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    Default Re: Weight and the fly

    I usually just add splitshot about 8" up from the fly as needed, that seems to work pretty well for me. However, i saw something the other day from the makers of gink, the dry fly floatant that works tremendously well, and it was called xink(?). Supposedly, it's just like a liquid/gel dry fly floatant, but it adds weight to the fly. I'm probably going to get some and try it out sometime, has anyone else had any experience with this stuff?

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    Hey guys,

    My only experience with Xink is selling it. We sell almost none. It probably has a good application in some fishing situations but anglers around here don't use it. Gink, on the other hand sells like hotcakes. I use #6 split shot 6" to 8" up and if one doesn't get it down I use two or more.

    Byron

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    Default Re: Weight and the fly

    I've used Xinc or however it is spelled... *I think it is basically a wetting agent. *It doesn't add weight, but does get the fly off the surface immediately. *And it is permanent.

    I don't think it would be a good substitute for split shot, but for wooly boogers, soft hackles, and unweighted nymphs, it does get them off the surface without the routine hard twitch sometimes required, especially when the fly had dried. *That might allow it to settle into the strike zone.

    Make sure it is off your fingers before handling dry flies or strike indicator yarn. *It works on those, too.

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    Patrick,
    I have used the soft lead (really a cadmium or some other freakish material from the periodic chart) by Orvis or Loon for years. I like the Loon better though. In the winter I keep the canister in my shirt pocket to keep it warm and malleable, pinch some off, and then attach it to the tippet knot usually about 8" up from the fly. Just roll it in your fingers once on the knot to make it stay and cast correctly. Works for me, quick and simple and does not pinch the mono that could possibly weaken it.

    Flat Fly'n
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    Default Re: Weight and the fly

    ^ Flat,

    Do I understand that you only use about 8" of tippet when nymphing? Is that pretty common?

    Thunderhead8
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    TH8,
    If I am fishing fast water which requires weight, yes. If I vertically dead drift a nymph in slow moving crystal clear water,ie tailwaters, then no added weight, and a little bit longer tippet. Of course by tippet I mean the final/terminal piece of mono. I fish 12-15 long leaders/tippets on tailwaters and of course shorter one on mountain or big rivers/out west. BTW... I don't fish a nymph that is not weighted either with a bead or wraps of lead or both in combo.

    "Put the lead on their head"

    Flat Fly'n
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    Default Re: Weight and the fly

    Flat,

    That is very useful info. Thanks!

    TH8
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    Thanks for all the tips on weight guys.

    I will try them soon.

    Patrick

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    Default Re: Weight and the fly

    I use Xinc. I like it for smaller flies, like midge pupae or small PT nymphs. I dont like adding shop above small nymps (18->) b/c I think it 'overpowers' the fly. The Xinc is some pretty neat stuff. Makes your fly sink like a rock. It claims on the bottle to be permanent, but Im not sure about that. Its really good if you're nymphing pools and dont want the splash of the shot. Its kinda hard to find it..I think I got mine at KMart. I was on a guide one day and he showed it to me and explained how to use it. Funny thing though, he didnt sell it in his shop, well until I pointed it out to him. I dont know how much you would use it in the mountains, I cant say I use it all [i]that[i] much but I used it late fall early winter this year.

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