My "other rod" is a TFO professional. It's an 8'6" 4 wt. and I have fished it both overlined and with a 4 wt line. Again, I prefer it overlined for the same reasons as the Avid. I've come to think of it as my general purpose rod since I fish it on tailwaters as well as in the mountains. You should definitely take a long look at the TFO rods. They are a great value!