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Thread: Just the Basics:Flie selection for Smokies

  1. #21
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    Default Confidence is the key

    I have no idea how they can tell, but I swear that fish only take flies that the caster has confidence in. Perhaps they see the look on our faces and decide if we're committed to the fly, they'll be committed!

    My guess is that presentation and size are the most important characteristics to catching trout in the park. They have to be so opportunistic in their feeding, due to the lack of sustaining foods that if it looks like something they can eat and acts like something that might be alive they'll take it. I know I might be able to catch more fish at certain times, but by sticking with a PA (in yellow for the summer and grey all other times), Yellow Stimi and EHC for dries and a Tellico or Pheasant Tail for nymphs I should catch fish.

    Worry more about presentation and have confidence in your fly...the fish can sense it!

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    I LOVE the catalog and scour it every chance I get (I sit in front of a computer for about half my day) but there are so many in so many colors and slight variations in pattern that I worry about ending up not having THE FLY of the day!

    BUT, I already see an easily to follow pattern to yalls recommendations!

    Hey, what's a "PA"
    "even Jesus had a 12 man recon team"

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    See, it works. I went to the catalog and figured out it's probably "Parachute Adams" no?
    "even Jesus had a 12 man recon team"

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    Sorry for the acronyms. PA is, indeed, Parachute Adams.
    Charlie B

    His eye is on the sparrow and I know He watches me.
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    green weenie 14-16
    yellow weenie 14-16
    para adams 16-18
    yellow stimulators 14-18
    red copper john 14-18
    "If fishing is like religion, then fly fishing is high church."- Tom Brokaw

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    Okay I am new to some of the flies evidently what are the EHC's, and sulphers you guys keep referring to? I cant seem to find a pattern anywhere for that. Thanks

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    EHC elk hair caddis

    Ok, gotta see about these "weenies". Tell a man how you would fish one of these!!
    "even Jesus had a 12 man recon team"

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    EHCs are Elk Hair Caddis and you should be able to find lots of sites that have tying recipes and instructions. http://littleriveroutfitters.com/sto...4&cat=0&page=1

    Here is a description of sulphurs I picked up from the web:
    "The Sulphur / Sulfur (hatch) is the Eastern USA equivalent of the Western Pale Evening Dun. Regardless of whether you are trying to match the Sulphur Ephemerella invaria or the slightly smaller Ephemerella dorothea, the descriptions of these mayflies are similar. There are a number of species of Sulphur, but they all have yellowish, yellowish green or orange/yellow bodies. They all hatch in the evening or occasionally during mid-day hours on a cloudy day. It's typically an evening hatch, beginning anywhere from 7 to 7:30 p.m. and lasting to dark."

    LRO has them on their website:
    http://littleriveroutfitters.com/sto...2&cat=0&page=1

    Weenies are fished liked nymphs (for the most part). Some folks swear by them. The "Barbie bug" is a pink weenie, as well
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    Thank you so very much, I hate feeling like an idiot, but Im still going by the whole name of the flies since I am fairly new at this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteCz View Post
    "...They all hatch in the evening or occasionally during mid-day hours on a cloudy day. It's typically an evening hatch, beginning anywhere from 7 to 7:30 p.m. and lasting to dark."

    And, of course, the obvious exception to this particular rule would be the South Holston where they seem to hatch 24/7/365

    Gerry

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