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Old 10-28-2008, 02:53 PM
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Default Fly selection/hints/tips for the Caney?

I had a few questions regarding flies and techniques for the Caney. Lately it seems as if the fishing has died down a bit, and I want more action! Haha.

For wooly buggers/streamers, are beadheads necessary? I've noticed that they fly extremely weird when they have beadheads, and don't go very far. Also, what types of streamers are commonly hit?

For midges, it seems like there are only a handful of sections you can successfully fish due to the water depth. For the sections that are over 3' in depth, could you just add more tippet to get the midge down there or how does that go? I'm not talking about fishing like 10' holes, more along the lines of 4-6'.

I need every bit of info I can get, so let's have it!
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Old 10-28-2008, 04:01 PM
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Trey,
You will find that typically this time of year the fishing dies down everywhere. The reason for this is the fish's metabolism also slows this time of year. They do not have to eat as much to get through the day. For this reason, they are also less likely to travel very far for a meal, so you must place the fly on their nose.

Regarding your question about streamers and midges. I always tie my streamers with a conehead and wrap the shank with lead wire so it sinks quickly. Does it make a difference? I don't know, it is just personal preference. When fishing a midge in a deep hole, you have to realize that if the hole is 3' deep that putting your indicator 3' up from the fly will not get it to the bottom. The reason is that underwater currents and drag on the fly line will cause the line to take a sagging appearance. So, you may only be fishing 2' deep, but you believe you are deeper. The best way to get deeper is to add more weight by either adding split shot, or my favorite is to add another nymph 12" below the first. This not only doubles your chances at a hookup and allows you to work more of the water column, but also gives additional weight to reduce the sag in your line and have a more vertical presentation.

From my experience when fishing a hole that is around 4' deep, I would put my indicator about 6' above my bottom midge if using 2 size 20 bh zebra midges. A technique and setup I commonly use on the Clinch.

Hope this helps.

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Old 10-29-2008, 08:26 AM
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Good advice Travis, the only thing i will add, anyday fishing beat's a day at work

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Old 10-29-2008, 05:01 PM
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"You will find that typically this time of year the fishing dies down everywhere." I just simply have to agree! I can tell you that you would probably be better off just staying at home and tying! I, for one, won't be anywhere near water till spring! It's pretty darn cold too, gosh your fly guides will probably freeze and you probably won't do any damage fishing! I'd probably just pick another hobby! Yep, another hobby!

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Now now, that is just not an option Fishing is so much more than the pursuit of fish!

Travis, I like the idea of 3 flies but I would CRY if I got snagged and had to break the line. As Brett suggested, I need to start tying but I think I would get frustrated very fast! I've watched my midge while I was in waist deep water, and I could definitely see that it wasn't as deep as I expected it to be, and that it was following behind the indicator. So, if I just added more tippet on top of that, it would still be deeper than before... Could I add like 3' of tippet and have it 2' down? Seems plausible to me, I just need a yes or no.
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Old 10-29-2008, 10:16 PM
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Longer tippet will equal a shallower drift unless you do the heavier fly or splitshot.

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Now now, that is just not an option Fishing is so much more than the pursuit of fish!

Travis, I like the idea of 3 flies but I would CRY if I got snagged and had to break the line. As Brett suggested, I need to start tying but I think I would get frustrated very fast! I've watched my midge while I was in waist deep water, and I could definitely see that it wasn't as deep as I expected it to be, and that it was following behind the indicator. So, if I just added more tippet on top of that, it would still be deeper than before... Could I add like 3' of tippet and have it 2' down? Seems plausible to me, I just need a yes or no.
Trey,
That may get you down there. But I prefer to use an indicator so that I can easily adjust my depth until I am just above bottom.

I'm not talking about fishing 3 flies. I am referring to using 2 nymphs and an indicator.

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