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Old 01-09-2012, 09:14 PM
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has anyone fished the tribal waters and/or trophy waters in Cherokee, NC? I am going with a group next weekend, and have no clue what to expect or what works there. Thanks in advance...
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Old 01-10-2012, 04:42 PM
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yes last fall. Keep your money and go to the casino IMO. Better chance at striking it rich than catching a fish in those waters.
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Not necessarily. I fished it earlier this fall and it was real good. I just had to use really small flies on 7x. Fun fights. Just find deeper slow areas. You can usually see the fish.
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Old 01-10-2012, 07:44 PM
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Not necessarily. I fished it earlier this fall and it was real good. I just had to use really small flies on 7x. Fun fights. Just find deeper slow areas. You can usually see the fish.
What flies would you recommend? And when you say small, do you mean sz18? or smaller? I have never been to the area and don't do this often, so I want the trip to not be a skunking!
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Old 01-10-2012, 11:19 PM
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yes last fall. Keep your money and go to the casino IMO. Better chance at striking it rich than catching a fish in those waters.
Haha, I wouldn't waste one nickel in that sewer water.

Nothing worse IMO then fresh stockers, crowds, and trash littered stream banks.

Save your money and dip into the park, fish Bradley's Fork or the Oconoluftee. You will be happier, trust me.
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:21 AM
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Well it seems plenty of people have caught fish there. And I doubt there will be crowds as cold as it's going to be. I just need some direction from those that have.....
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Well it seems plenty of people have caught fish there. And I doubt there will be crowds as cold as it's going to be. I just need some direction from those that have.....
I have fished it, quite a few times, and there are plenty of fish. Fish aren't the issue it is everything else.

Try nymphs of various kinds usually #14 PT's will work fine, but do not go without a bunch of egg patterns. Stockers love eggs.

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Old 01-11-2012, 11:08 AM
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Oh I have some egg patterns! That's my last resort. I heard there is a winter stonefly hatch there sometimes, but don't know if I can get away with sz14-16, or if I must use sz18-20.

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Old 01-12-2012, 08:34 AM
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Haha, I wouldn't waste one nickel in that sewer water.

Nothing worse IMO then fresh stockers, crowds, and trash littered stream banks.

Save your money and dip into the park, fish Bradley's Fork or the Oconoluftee. You will be happier, trust me.
Have you fished the Clinch in the past 20 years? Coal Creek seems to be Briceville's septic system. Plus; the hind's creek and the industrial park have all kinds of dumps in the river. After the 61 bridge; I notice an insane drop off of benthic and fish quality.
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:24 AM
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Have you fished the Clinch in the past 20 years? Coal Creek seems to be Briceville's septic system. Plus; the hind's creek and the industrial park have all kinds of dumps in the river. After the 61 bridge; I notice an insane drop off of benthic and fish quality.
I think I have fished the Clinch once in the last 20 years, but I could be wrong.

Coal creek is a piss trickle which comes into the river most days, you are talking about 1/10 the flow coming out of that creek if that. It certainly isn't the whole river like the Cherokee streams.

What could possibly pollute Hind's Creek? A few cows? Hinds Creek doesn't flow through anything except for cow pastures and woods. Don't understand this example.

The fish quality is outstanding below 61 bridge, and the benthic life takes a major hit from water depth which correlates to no weed growth which is vital to the limited species that inhabit the Clinch. Nothing related to run off or pollution is affecting the lower Clinch tailwater. The problem is the fish population is low (stripers/muskie) and poor habitat are the reasons, not water quality.

Sewage, pollution, industrial discharge, etc etc does not mean a reduction in benthic life or fish health. For example the Holston above Rogersville is seriously impacted by Kingsport and the Eastman plant, however it has huge hatches and a very healthy fish population. The Pigeon River which is still horribly polluted has monster insect hatches and unbelievable fish health. I could go on and on and on with examples.

The nastiness of Cherokee is more of an aesthetic nasty then anything else. The fish are straight out of the truck stockers which have little redeeming qualities other then they are a trout, and good for passing a little time.
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