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Old 02-20-2012, 10:47 PM
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I see where Andy Brasko is attending TroutFest this year tying his beautiful wet fly patterns.

You are all in for a treat.

Andy is well know up north here, When my monthly copy of the Catskill Fly Tyers Guild
Newsletter would come, the first thing, and I mean the first thing I did was turn to
Andy's monthly column and read it.



As you can see by the few posts he has put up he is very honest and
passionate about his art. If any of you are lucky to get to watch him tie,
ask questions about his techniques and such, you will not get a quick and
easy answer, he will take his time to fully explain it. No short cuts here.



The detail of his flies are something to behold.



Another thing that you won't find him posting about, Andy is an
Officer in the Ray Neirle, South Jersey Chapter of Trout Unlimited,
and he also an Officer of New Jersey State Council of Trout Unlimited.

So reading about him going to Townsend, TN to help out a very worthy cause for TU is nothing new.
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Old 02-21-2012, 09:35 AM
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AK and Andy,
Let me share with you some of the history of the Wet Fly in this part of the country and maybe it will give you some perspective as how to deal with speaking about your flies on this board and when you are at Trout Fest in the Summer. You can probably count on one hand all the people who frequent this bulletin board and who fish in the Smokies who go back far enough to have any experience with fishing Wet Flies. This is my 60th year at Flyfishing and it began in the early 50s. Wet Flies were the fly of choice at this time and I fished them for 3-4 years. In my world, Nymphs began to replace them and Dry Flies as well. In just a short peroid of time the Wet Fly disappeared completely in the Smokies until about 12 years ago. I and others began to tie some Emerger and Wet Fly patterns that were used to some extent in the GSMNP and on area Tailwaters. To sum it up, very few people in this area have any exposure to Dressed Wet Flies like the Ray Bergman selections so you are going to be on new ground and many explanations will need to go with your flies to help others understand how and when to use them in this area.
Thanks again for sharing time with us.

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Old 02-21-2012, 09:40 AM
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AK and Andy,
Let me share with you some of the history of the Wet Fly in this part of the country and maybe it will give you some perspective as to deal with speaking on this board and when you are at Trout Fest in the Summer. You can probably count on one hand all the people who frequent this bulletin board and who fish in the Smokies who go back far enough to have any experience with fishing Wet Flies. This is my 60th year at Flyfishing and it began in the early 50s. Wet Flies were the fly of choice at this time and I fished them for 3-4 years. In my world, Nymphs began to replace them and Dry Flies as well. In just a short peroid of time the Wet Fly disappeared completely in the Smokies until about 12 years ago. I and others began to tie some Emerger and Wet Fly patterns that were used to some extent in the GSMNP and on area Tailwaters. To sum it up, very few people in this area have any exposure to Dressed Wet Flies like the Ray Bergman selections so you are going to be on new ground and many explanations will need to go with you flies to help others understand how and when to use them in this area.
Thanks again for sharing time with us.

Hugh
I have thoroughly enjoyed Andy's Posts and I look forward to learning more from him. Hugh; I absolutely love wet flies and the idea behind 'dynamic' fly fishing-how I fish it. I may have to head up to Troutfest to chat with Andy and learn more about his patterns. I sure need help on my wing tying.
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Old 02-22-2012, 07:26 AM
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Hugh is absolutely spot on when it comes to the historical use of wet flies; I might mention that this was a nationwide use however. When I was a teen the few fly shops I was able to visit feature tradiional wets and "traditional catskill drys".

About the only "place" I saw nymphs was in the Orvis catalog in those days and there were only a few "traditional" offerings.

What's most remarkable is that traditional wets worked well and my generation gravitated away from them! My belief is that trout strike them out of curiosity or perhaps they create an instinctive desire to bite.... much like an Atlantic Salmon Fly.

Who really knows?

My bet is that Hugh, myself and several others have bits of this and that in our fly tying supplies that demonstrate the progression away from the tying and use of traditional wet flies.

Matching the hatch became everything thirty years ago and wets match nothing.....

Funny how we all figure trout to be so smart as to "require" hatch matching when they have a brain the size of a pea.... traditional wets are BLING and trout like BLING as everyone is now adding FLASH to nymphs.

What goes around comes around.
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Old 02-22-2012, 10:37 AM
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Matching the hatch became everything thirty years ago and wets match nothing.....
Corbo, I'm not certain thats entirely true. Take the quill gordon wet, for example. This wet fly pattern matches 2 different stages of the insects life cycle. The qg nymphs actually shed their shucks at the bottom of the stream and come to the surface as an adult mayfly. I've found the wet fly pattern to be great for this stage.

Although I know absolutely nothing about catskill & new england aquatic insects, I'd imagine you're correct about the crazy looking wets with married wings of 3 different colors being nothing more than bling....and its possible that these are the wets you were referring to.
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Old 02-22-2012, 03:14 PM
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Yes Grannyknot..... referring to the Bling colors; not the hendrickson, blue quills or other wets that are essential a wet version of a Darby or Dette dry fly or some of the UK/Ireland drys.

Traditional wets and American Landlocked streamers (I believe) likley evolved from the Atlantic Salmon patterns used in Western European Countries.... Andy may correct me if I'm incorrect!

In my youth I was fortunate enough to visit a bunch of the old school catskill, pocono and connecticut "fly shops" owned by guys who tied all the beautiful wets and dries that originated nearly 100 years ago. These guys had billions of flies in the walk out basements, garage shops or outbuildings... it was like a visit to CandyLand.

When I moved up to Maine in the early 80's the few shops around the State where Landlocked Salmon were in the Rivers (Rangley area and Moosehead as well as LLBean) sold magnifcent Streamers.... like Grey Ghost, 9-3 Supervisor, Magog Smelt and all the Carrie Stevens Patterns.

I used to tie many of them but over the years like my friends I bastardized the "True Patterns" with more modern materials and synthetics and used marabou in place of saddle feathers because they held up better and seemed to catch more fish.... don't know that I have any Silver or golden pheasant left any more.... heck I may not have virtually any duck quill for that matter... time to go hunting! Where can I shoot an IBIS?

Andy.... have you ever considered marabou to replace matched Quills on your wets.... OR would this be blasphomy? I may try it and you can beat me with an old Fenwick glass rod or piece of bamboo.
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