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Old 04-18-2013, 12:12 PM
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Byron's comment about his boat motor this morning spurred me to ask is anyone else having similar issues? Here in VA we still have several stores that are able to sell non-ethanol fuel. We have been very particular to only use it in our outboards as well as chain saws, lawnmowers, etc. I made the mistake of putting regular 10% ethanol in my weed eater last summer a few times. I'm carrying it to the shop today because the carb is not supplying fuel correctly and it's shutting off every few seconds, I think
it's losing vacuum, probably due to ethanol ruining some of the rubber seals.
The dealers that do sell the non-ethanol fuel figured out pretty quick that people were searching for it for marine engines so they put a premium on it last summer. It runs about 3.89/ gal vs. 3.35/ gal for pump gas with 10% ethanol. I just wondered if the rest of you have had issues, and do you know of stations near you that sell non-ethanol?
I even heard that Stihl is now making an ethanol kit to upgrade their engines to burn it.
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Old 04-18-2013, 12:57 PM
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Yep. Screwed up a 4 stroke lawnmower with it. It seems to be ok if you use the device regularly, but trouble comes if it sits like over winter. In that case you need to drain the tank and carb before you store it. Stabil makes some stuff to treat ethanol fuel. Can't say if it works. I've gone to non-ethanol and add regular stabil anyway.
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Old 04-18-2013, 01:12 PM
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My dad uses 100% gas religiously in anything with a carburetor. On his outboard, he unplugs the fuel line from the motor, while its on the trailer, on the ramp, but still in the water, to let the remaining gas in the motor burn up. His outboard is a '76 E-rude and still starts with no more than 3 pulls. I don't believe he has ever even had the cowling off that motor.

I used to not care about ethanol, but got sick of cleaning carbs every spring in my lawnmower. I recently purchased a new mower and will only be using 100% gas and will be emptying the tank every winter.
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Old 04-18-2013, 01:31 PM
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I try to buy 100% gas for my jon boat and mowers. There is a small conv. store not too far away that sells only 100%. My boat gas tank is a 3 gal tank running on a 10hp merc 4 stroke. I run 1/2oz of marine sta-bil to a tank and haven't had any problems. I usually pour whats left in the tank into my riding mower after each outing and it gets used up quickly. Over the winter, I run the boat engine dry before storage and pour the remaining gas into my truck. I never keep gas very long.
I do take my motor in every year to the dealer for a check over and fluid changes and they make sure everything is running perfect.
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Old 04-18-2013, 05:41 PM
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Gary, that may be the whole trick. Just not letting any gas sit too long. We do use the stabil in winter in mowers, boat, saws, weedeater, all of it. We also try to unhook the fuel line and run the boat motor out if its going to sit more than a couple weeks.
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Old 04-18-2013, 07:31 PM
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Pure Gas.com is a list of 100 percent gas stations in the country . Station that have not changed their storage tanks most likely are still selling 100 present gas . After 2 carbs rebuilt last year total over $700. Nothing but 100 present in all my motors. Stabill does not help. I was using marine stabill when I had the problem. Had to replace all fuel lines from tank to carbs plus 2 carb jobs. Learned my lesson. Most Tennessee Farmers Co Op who have gas pumps sell nothing but 100 present gas.
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First off, i agree with Jack about the Ethanol. I read stories all the time on a tractor forum that i'm a member on about the problems folks have.

Having said that, my 95 JD mower, 86 TroyBilt tiller, 2 Stihl chainsaws & one big whopping weed whacker have been running on this stuff for years without a problem. I don't add any additives to it except during the winter when the mower & tiller are stored, i'll start them once a month for the heck of it.
I started the chainsaws over the weekend & ran them for a few minutes, they haven't been used since February, the weedeater works year round being i clear fence rows with it during the winter.
The saws & weed whacker are over 10 years old to boot, i can't fiure out why i'm not having the problems everyone else is having, tried 100% once in the saws & they ran like crap, would have had to carried them to the dealer if i continued, went back to the "E" stuff, no problems.
As i stated earlier, i don't like the politics of the stuff, i'm just not having the problems everyone else seems to be having.

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Old 07-30-2013, 09:04 AM
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Maybe, based off of the advice given to Byron, and the fact that you're starting your saws and equipment once a month in Winter and not having any issues, that is the answer. It's worth a try anyway. We're running the E gas in our mowers and weed eaters and I'm sure I've never bothered to run them in the Winter time. I'll try it this year!
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Old 07-30-2013, 09:29 AM
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I do add SeaFoam to the fuel tanks during the winter, even the 2 strokes & diesel farm tractor, never a problem.
The tiller has set all year, to wet for my garden spot, started on the 2nd pull the other day so i walked it around the barn lot & put it back up. I do think the key is running the engines.
Having said all this, none of them will probably work next time out

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Old 07-30-2013, 03:27 PM
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Well, I hope thats not the case but a lot of times "Murphy's Law" prevails. We put Stabil in everything but have still had problems. I'll set a calendar event every month this winter to walk around and run everything. Heck, it sure won't hurt anything to warm it up a few minutes, right?
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