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Old 04-05-2013, 12:03 PM
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Default To wet wade or not to wet wade...that is the question?

Folks,

My family and I go to the GSMNP as much as work allows but it seems we typically make it there in the Fall. This year we have planned a trip for the Spring, week of April 22 to be exact. I have always worn waders in the fall because we are normally in the area in November.

What is the concensus for wet wading in late April? Should I plan to wear waders?
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Old 04-05-2013, 12:34 PM
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Folks,

My family and I go to the GSMNP as much as work allows but it seems we typically make it there in the Fall. This year we have planned a trip for the Spring, week of April 22 to be exact. I have always worn waders in the fall because we are normally in the area in November.

What is the concensus for wet wading in late April? Should I plan to wear waders?
I waded out to my knees on Monday. It was not a good experience. Bring the waders unless the water gets another 20ish degrees warmer by then.
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Old 04-05-2013, 12:52 PM
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For years we wet waded year round, but then moved to wet wading if we could stand the cold and the water, as moving upstream and casting while jogging is tough in waders. That was a long time ago...

Last year I fell on my left knee wet wading the Hiwassee. I wound up with a staff infection, and did three trips to the hospital for a total of 20 days and two surgeries. Mrs. Kirk says that I am no longer allowed to wet wade anywhere except in the hot tub on the back where I still have skinny dipping privileges when the kids are gone.

Year before last Kevin Howell over at Davidson River Outfitters had the same thing happen to him in the Tusk. He also had a friend who got infected from a puncture. They no longer wet wade. None of these incidents occurred in the GSMNP where one would presume there is less danger from things like fecal bacteria. I never liked wearing waders if they could be avoided, but when the doctors tell you that you may loose your leg, waders are a reasonable compromise. Thatís my two cents worth on wet wading.
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Old 04-05-2013, 01:36 PM
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You need something to keep firm footing as others have mentioned. Several years ago while I was wet wading in Teva sandals my feet went out from under me. My leg slammed into a sharp ridge of shale. I let it bleed out for a while, gobbed it up with triple antibiotic and then used three butterfly closures to hold it shut. Fortunately it didn't get infected. I probably should have gone for stitches but I didn't want to hike out.

I'm a big fan of the Chota Hippies that LRO carries. They are super light, I believe I read 10 ounces each. You can wear them at 3 different heights depending on the temperature and use your wading boots for good footing. There are also the Simms neoprene socks that allow you to wear your regular wading boots and still have the wet wading feeling.
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Old 04-05-2013, 01:58 PM
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I am going out on monday and will be wearing waders.
But then I like wearing plastic pants in running water
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Old 04-05-2013, 02:03 PM
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Bootfoot breathable hip boots. You can get to all your pockets as a plus.
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Old 04-05-2013, 02:31 PM
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Wet wade except perhaps on the largest streams (Little River from Elkmont down would be considered "large). Also depends a lot on water levels...bring the waders so you have options...
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Old 04-05-2013, 05:46 PM
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It's currently still a little bit too cold for me to wet wade, but we're supposed to be getting up into the 70's this weekend and through next week. If those temps hold, the creeks might be warm enough for wet wading by the time you get here as long as you don't get too deep and don't stay in the water too long.

Here's a link to the water temps on the Little River just below the park boundary in Townsend (click the box at the top of the page and select TW Temperature, water to show that graph). Keep in mind, this is the temp for a larger river at a lower elevation and the smaller creeks higher up will likely be a bit colder.
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:52 PM
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If water temp is above 45 and air temp is above 60 I usually wet wade. It also depends on how far back in I am going. Sometimes if I am roadside, I bring the waders just in case the chill in the air/ wind is a little more than I am expecting.

Wet wading in colder weather- I use neoprene booties, fleece liners and wool/synthetic hiking socks. I'm never uncomfortable like that. As it warms up I Ditch the wool, then replace the fleece with cotton ( more to prevent blisters than anything else)

That's how I do it. Others will their own opinion but I'm happy with that set up.
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Old 04-05-2013, 11:27 PM
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All great information.....hate to hear about the staff infections. Thank you very much for the Little River temperature link...i keep up with conditions on the Little River Fishing Report but I like the graph.

I will have my trusty waders with me...I will also take a look at the Chota Hippies...can't find them in Mobile, AL.

Thanks to everyone for the great info...hopefully I will get a chance to fish/meet with some of you while I am in town.
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