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Old 08-25-2009, 11:04 AM
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That's a serious pig Highpockets.
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Old 08-25-2009, 01:27 PM
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Waterwolf,
I'm going to take you up on your offer to take a guided trip if you will stipulate to my conditions. If you feel that you can't do it, I'll understand.
First of all, I am not doing float trips at the present time. I am still in the process of recovering from Non Hodgkins Lymphoma cancer and the Chemo really did some damage to the muscles and nerve endings in my feet, legs, and arms. I've really not had the energy to use the boat so far this year. I have only been doing wade trips. Because of the damage done to the feet and legs with those treatments, I have had to start using a wading staff for the first time in my life and I'm a little slower at manuvering in the water. No guide can guarantee that any client will catch fish so with that factor laid out to start with, here are my terms.
If I understood what you were saying about your shocking experience this year, you only turned up one fish that was over 21inches and none that was 24 inches. If you want to meet with me and do a wade trip, I'll be glad to do so. I do not want any money from you, but I will ask that if either of us catch a fish that is over the size of the largest fish that you shocked up that you will agree to stop bashing people on this board and show respect for all flyfishermen. If we have a bad day on the water, then we'll do it again. I will understand your work schedule and you will have to understand mine. This will just be between you and me and the camera. I am booked both days this weekend so we'll watch the generation schedule and work from there.

Hugh
There is a huge difference in bashing and questioning, first and foremost.
I respect all fly fisherman who treat others on the river with respect and courtesy and do not attempt to boast/brag/exaggerate for personal gains of any type. If folks fall out of the above categories I am quick to call a spade a spade. Just the way it is.

Back to the point.....It is not a good idea for me, you, or anyone else to be fishing the Holston right now. The water temp as of yesterday was 71 degrees, plenty cool enough for the fish to survive if left alone, but plenty warm enough to cause harm if a fish is caught right now.

I will take you up on it this winter or there after when the water cools. You might be shocked and may actually learn something from a now retired Holston guide and river bum. Stay in touch...
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Old 08-25-2009, 01:40 PM
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Brother,
According to the emails that I have gotten since last night there is a world of difference in your idea about bashing and numbers of others on this board. There is one thing that I can agree with that you mentioned and that is that the water temps are coming up in the river. I'll stick by my guns about the trip and about the size of the fish. We'll do it out in the future if I'm still alive. I have said to every client that I've ever taken out on the stream that "I learn something from everyone that I fish with". I hope that continues to happen when we get together and as long as I can make it to a stream. Good fishing to you.
Hugh
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Old 08-25-2009, 02:07 PM
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Hugh I wasnít aware of your illness. I donít know you on a personal level but based on your internet persona that Iíve come to know over the last several years Iím comfortable saying that youíre a humble, caring, and just really nice guy. I for one enjoy fish tales, pictures, and long winded stories that are so twisted with untruth that they could only have come from the mouth of a fisherman. They motivate me to learn more and become a better angler. But,,, I try not to take it that serious, its just fishing not world politics.

Youíve done a great job with your site and have taught many people a lot about the sport. Iíd love to join you for a day on some of those East TN rivers like we talked about sometime ago. I'm confident that I would learn plenty. Youíre a class act Hugh keep it up, our prayers are with you and your family.
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Old 08-25-2009, 02:22 PM
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I for one enjoy fish tales, pictures, and long winded stories that are so twisted with untruth that they could only have come from the mouth of a fisherman.
I like Mr. Anderson's take on this.......afterall, isn't the creation of tall tales what we do best?
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Waterwolf,
I'm going to take you up on your offer to take a guided trip if you will stipulate to my conditions. If you feel that you can't do it, I'll understand.
First of all, I am not doing float trips at the present time. I am still in the process of recovering from Non Hodgkins Lymphoma cancer and the Chemo really did some damage to the muscles and nerve endings in my feet, legs, and arms. I've really not had the energy to use the boat so far this year. I have only been doing wade trips. Because of the damage done to the feet and legs with those treatments, I have had to start using a wading staff for the first time in my life and I'm a little slower at manuvering in the water. No guide can guarantee that any client will catch fish so with that factor laid out to start with, here are my terms.
If I understood what you were saying about your shocking experience this year, you only turned up one fish that was over 21inches and none that was 24 inches. If you want to meet with me and do a wade trip, I'll be glad to do so. I do not want any money from you, but I will ask that if either of us catch a fish that is over the size of the largest fish that you shocked up that you will agree to stop bashing people on this board and show respect for all flyfishermen. If we have a bad day on the water, then we'll do it again. I will understand your work schedule and you will have to understand mine. This will just be between you and me and the camera. I am booked both days this weekend so we'll watch the generation schedule and work from there.

Hugh
Check and mate to Mr. Hugh Hartsell!!

Nicely done, Hugh. You made him an offer he could neither refuse nor fulfill. When he looks up the word "respect" in his dictionary, all waterwolf sees is a picture of a weasel. As he has amply demonstrated here and on other boards, waterwolf is incapable of respecting anyone or anything that isn't named Jim Jordan.

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First and foremost I'm a member of another outdoor website that is covered up with folks that like to start little fires and watch them grow. I'm watching as that website slowly dies. Lets keep this one alive and happy.
Fortunately, we only have one little weasel here who likes to flick his bic from time to time. Most of us just ignore him. By and large, he's made himself irrelevant.

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Old 08-25-2009, 04:26 PM
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Hugh,

As always you have showed a lot of class on the forum. I believe I saw you guiding a lady at Nances Ferry during the spring 0f 2008. I didn't get a chance to talk to you as I didn't want to interrupt your fishing. I wish you the very best in your battle against cancer. You have been a strong and helpful presence on the board since its inception. I look forward to seeing you again on the Holston one day and get the chance to talk to you.

Neal
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Old 08-25-2009, 04:40 PM
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Fellas,
Thanks to each one of you for your concerns and prayers about the cancer. It seems that the Chemo treatment was successful and the cancer is in remission now. I have been able to get back out on the stream and it really feels good. Let's turn our attention now to some great Fall fishing that will be coming up soon. I guided in the Park yesterday and the water levels and temperatures were fantastic for this time of the year. The tubers are almost all gone and we're back to normal.
Mike, the time of the year is coming up for some great fishing on the South Holston Rver. I hope you get a chance to come up this year and maybe we can spend a day together on some fine water. I have truely admired your catches from the Cumberland and the Caney in the past so I'm ready to watch you lay out those streamers and tube flies and perform your magic. Give me a call if you get a chance to get up here.
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Old 08-25-2009, 07:53 PM
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