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Old 09-09-2009, 10:35 AM
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Carlito...Ray Ball knot? Old dog but willing to learn new tricks.
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Old 09-09-2009, 10:40 AM
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I tried looking up the ray ball knot on the web, but could find no reference to it. Got a link to it?
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Old 09-09-2009, 10:49 AM
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Rog 1--Are you familiar with the Trule knot? I think it is very easy to tie, with the only real problem being having to pay close attention to not catching any hackle as you cinch the knot down. It has two other advantages--it is slightly stronger (about two percent) than an improved clinch knit and the fly always lands on the water with the tippet directly in line with the shank of the hook. That is not the case with an improved clinch knot. Jim Casada
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Old 09-09-2009, 12:01 PM
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Well, I did a search too and could not find it online. A friend showed me this knot, and he was taught by Ray Ball himself. You may have seen Ray fly fishing up in the Smokies on the Heartland Series.

Anyway, it is really simple and I can describe it here.


This is a SUPER EASY knot to tie, and I would be willing to bet that Daniel Drake could show you how to do it in person at LRO. I almost always use this knot unless I know I need a very strong knot for heavy tackle or big game fish. It can also be used to tie on a dropper and to tie on additional tippet!
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Old 09-09-2009, 03:13 PM
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Thanks Carlito, I copied and pasted your knot diagram. I have been using the 5 wrap figure 8 knot. I just wish the little hooks had bigger eyes.
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Old 09-09-2009, 03:18 PM
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I think the Surgeons Loop is much easier and it gives the fly a nice natural drift if you mend correctly.

http://www.animatedknots.com/surgeon...matedknots.com

You have to put the fly on first, before you start the loop.
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Old 09-09-2009, 04:35 PM
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Sivercreek...found a simple diagram for the Davy Knot...will give it a try in a couple of weeks....so much easier that the improved chinch....is this a great site or what!!!
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Old 09-09-2009, 04:54 PM
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Default Davy knot

I fished with Davy a couple of years ago and was amazed watching him tie a fly on so fast. At the time I didn't know it was a knot of his own invention. I watched a couple of times, then asked what knot he was using. He just said something about "a simple little knot I use..." Later I learned the story.
Amazing that something so simple and easy can hold like it does.

Another one I like is the orvis knot. More steps than the Davy, but still pretty easy.

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Old 09-09-2009, 10:36 PM
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Wow, I just found the Davy knot, and I am pumped about trying it out next time I hit the water! Thanks, SilverCreek!

Also, I am going to experiment some with the Turle knot with my dry flies. I hate it when the dropper ends up really close to the dry fly because the tippet gets all wonky, and I'm curious how noticeable the difference will be.
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Old 09-10-2009, 08:37 AM
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Default Davy knot

I estimate this Davy knot will save me about 2 hours per trip in tying time.
Now if I could just get my knees to go where I want to go!
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