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Old 12-11-2010, 09:20 AM
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Im sorry I did not make it clear however I guess I will now. I am not taking sides with the posting I made as I rarely if ever trout fish. I typically FLY fish for predatory and warm-water fish such as carp or smallies and this coming year will be targeting gar, musky and striper as well. I simply posted to play devils advocate and provide a possibly different scenario to the one that appears to be assumed by the previous posters. I did this to hopefully prompt more of a discussion instead of simply a bashing thread that does nothing to help the situation and only has the potential to make it worse if someone from the reservation were to come to the thread and read the posts.
I also should have been a little more clear. I understood that you were playing devil's advocate and should have stated so. Not trying to argue with you or anyone else. Just stating my opinion, which I hope didn't come across as harsh.

If the council wants money to protect their streams and land I personally would be willing to give a donation before I would pay to fish with a herd of people. Like I said before, I have a lot of respect for the Native Americans, but, tripling the fee just seems a tad much.

It might not hurt if someone from the tribe happened upon this thread. It is full of potential customers...
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Old 12-11-2010, 11:16 AM
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75 dollars is rediculous! Especially when you add to that the fact that the fishing and catching of lunkers has been way down over there this year. I remember when I first started fishing over there, 20 inchers were common. The last 3 times ive been there have really been sub par. Caught some decent fish, but nothing giant. In fact I could have caught the same from the regular stocked waters. So they are making more money by not stocking nearly as many fish and big fish, and now they will make more money on cost of permits. Money grubbers! Maybethey should put some slots at the pull offs. that would increase revenue as well.
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Old 12-12-2010, 12:05 AM
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Im sorry I did not make it clear however I guess I will now. I am not taking sides with the posting I made as I rarely if ever trout fish. I typically FLY fish for predatory and warm-water fish such as carp or smallies and this coming year will be targeting gar, musky and striper as well. I simply posted to play devils advocate and provide a possibly different scenario to the one that appears to be assumed by the previous posters. I did this to hopefully prompt more of a discussion instead of simply a bashing thread that does nothing to help the situation and only has the potential to make it worse if someone from the reservation were to come to the thread and read the posts.
I hope some from the tribe does read the thread and pass it along to others. i for one would have probably gone over there and given them money next year to fish that area and in turn spent money in Cherokee. Now I won't be so this definitely will impact them. Seems strange to have a strategy to protect stockers but in any case I have the feeling it will probably protect them . I think I could have swallowed a price increase from 25 to 35 or possibly even 50 but more than doubling it I think is a bad decision and I probably will not ever look into fishing there again.

By the way does anyone know if this is confirmed the $75 thing could this just be a bad rumor?
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rumor, cant be... if its on the internet, then it has to be true!
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rumor, cant be... if its on the internet, then it has to be true!
I read about it on Wikileaks...
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Old 12-12-2010, 11:41 AM
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Yes. It is true. You can go their site and buy the license online. It is $75 for the yearly permit for the C&R and $25 for a 3-day C&R. I doubt they will lose much money if any. I figure those that travel far to fish there only get up there once or twice a year anyway so buying a 3-day is still basically like it was before the increase. For those that live close by and fish it often, $75 isn't all that much.
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I read about it on Wikileaks...
Every time I hear Wikileaks, I think it is an advertisement for a Urologist.
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Let's keep everything in perspective. The special trophy section was a small section compared to all the streams available to the public. I guess I'll have to do some research and see who my ancestor was and get listed on the tribal roll. I have a picture to start with.
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Every time I hear Wikileaks, I think it is an advertisement for a Urologist.

It and Wikipedia are more related to...well,...nevermind.


Crockett - I'm pretty sure it's a done deal from what I'm hearing. Perhaps the "bad economy" hasn't hit Casino-town yet? The good thing for people who want to blow that kind of money to fish for stocked pellet fed fish is that they'll have more of the river to themselves next year.


Helix - If the Tribal leaders cared about what fly fisherman thought, they'd have thought twice about making fishing on their water so expensive. Only good things could come from them reading our lamentations over their decision to price their water out of reach( by choice or necessity). As for respect, I'm glad they finally stopped using old oil drums as trash cans. Enough said.
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Old 12-16-2010, 10:50 AM
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I've never fished it myself, but for someone who is a tourist and just wants to catch a few trout it isn't all that bad of a deal. Don't forget you don't have to buy an NC license It's really not that bad if you were going to fish it even 3 or 4 times a year. Daily rod fees are much higher in most places, and quite a few of them make you hire a guide as well to fish their waters. There is some talk of expanding the program to include more water. It's not for me, but all in all I don't think it's a bad deal.
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