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Old 01-22-2011, 04:43 PM
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Crockett,

I'm jealous... dang it!

So much water, so little time!

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Old 01-22-2011, 06:31 PM
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Reading the thread again. FWIW, the first time my wife fished the park, all she had to wade was a pair of Free Spirit sneakers. I was skeptical about her wading but, surprisingly, they were very good on the rocks. I think she had gotten them the year before at one of the outlets in PF.
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Old 01-24-2011, 03:57 AM
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The most valued opinion I could get on them the last time I was looking for new boots( last year) was that in winter the rubber bottoms were "ok." In late spring, it because like "a hippo on roller skates." This was from a reputable fly shop owner(not anyone at LRO).

I did a blog post the other day called Felt Saves Lives. It became quite the interesting debate as people from different parts of the country chimed in. I can tell you that "slippery" is a relative term and I'd almost pay good money to see some of the western fly fishers come here and try to wade our creeks.

There were actually some good arguments made against the continued use of felt, although none of those arguments took the safety of the angler into consideration in a meaningful way.
I think at some point, there won't be an argument as manufacturer's rush to accommodate the knee-jerk reaction of the larger environmental and environmentally-focused angler's clubs. I doubt very seriously if in a year from now, you will be able to find felt-soled boots and I have no doubt that it won't be long before someone dies trying to use them where only felt is safe.

There's a reason felt soles became the sole of choice in wading boots...but we'll throw all that out the window because we think we humans are in control.

Still, the idea that we could slow it might be worth a shot. I'm as on the fence about this issue as I am about the horses thing...and I gotta tell you guys I HATE being on the fence about anything. Time will tell....
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Old 01-24-2011, 02:53 PM
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I spent nearly thirty years fishing Colorado, Utah, Wyoming, New Mexico, Montana, and Idaho streams and never once needed anything but my Red Ball rubber soled waders. I wouldn't expect too much support from western fisherman on this issue.

It wasn't until I began to fish the Blue Ridge and the Smokies that I even considered felt waders, but did so on the advice of a friend at work who was experienced at fishing the Smokies. My first day on the water I tried both, the second time I left the rubber soles at the campground. Also, I began to use a good quality wading staff on the faster water.

It's not that I don't think fisherman should be responsible. I do and am! But I only use my felt waders in the Smokies, TN and NC waters, and I do sterilize like I mentioned before.

It seems to me this whole issue has been emotionally generated using good science the wrong way to justify a means to an end. And the real issue is still, didymo and other invasives can and are being spread more efficiently and more effectively by at least a hundred other causes which, collectively, overwhelm the use of felt waders. To me it's just that simple. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

I suppose if felts are outlawed everywhere I'll have to make adjustments. Let's see...I have an old pair of gold cleats I don't use anymore...Hmmm?

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Old 01-24-2011, 03:05 PM
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Oh, and by the way, horse hooves are at the top of the list!

Invasives can be packed tightly into the hoof membranes especially on shod animals. That is a common ailment of horses, deseases of the hooves caused by bacterialogical interface from pollutents in and on the soil.

How many streams do you think horses cross on a daily basis in the Smokies? Brought in from states all over the country without the benefit of cleaning and sterilzing the hoof area. Then trodding through Smokie Mountain streams that are criscrossed by hiking/riding trails.

Think about that one!

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This may be controversial but with a thousand miles of mountain streams at my back door why in the h*** would I ever fish a tailwater covered with rock snot? Never have figured out the attraction there.
well, each to his own, but fishing the sulphur hatch on SoHo can't be beat in my opinion.

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well, each to his own, but fishing the sulphur hatch on SoHo can't be beat in my opinion.
touche TennSwede I haven't fished the SoHo during a sulphur hatch. Perhaps thats a good thing. I might not want to go back to the jungle after seeing Paris as they say...
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Old 01-25-2011, 02:13 PM
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touche TennSwede I haven't fished the SoHo during a sulphur hatch. Perhaps thats a good thing. I might not want to go back to the jungle after seeing Paris as they say...
The crowds are tough on the weekend, especially a Saturday, But I do advise trying it once, during the week if can't deal with the crowd. It is awesome seeing all the browns and bows in 2-3 feet feeding during the height of the hatch. That river is full of fish, personally I wish they didn't stock the bows, luv them wild browns. Of course, I still like fishing the mountain streams as well, that's where I cut my teeth as a flyfisherperson

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