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Old 03-01-2011, 09:33 PM
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First attempt at spinning hair and tying a speck. I'm not satisfied at all but I think it will hunt. I glad I didn't have a timer going and I doubt this is one that I could tie in church (colorful language).

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Old 03-02-2011, 09:40 AM
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First attempt at spinning hair and tying a speck. I'm not satisfied at all but I think it will hunt. I glad I didn't have a timer going and I doubt this is one that I could tie in church (colorful language).
Jason,
Spinning hair drives me crazy too. It seems like it always has a mind of its own. I have been working on some Serendipity Patterns and it seems wasteful that you have to cut away so much material to create the pattern. One think I found that is helpful is to have a good-sharp old-school razor blade to trim the hair. I was trying to use my scissors and they were not sharp enough. The razor made a great difference. Keep sharing your patterns if you do not mind...(?) I am new to spinning hair and I need some pointers.
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Old 03-02-2011, 10:27 AM
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That looks like a pretty good first attempt to me. Having the right hair makes a big difference. The hair needs to be hollow right down to the tips. Check out Walter Babb tying them at Troutfest this year, like everything else he ties, he makes it look easy.
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Old 03-02-2011, 10:48 AM
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J...looks pretty darn good.
The best tips I received on spinning hair were to put the clump of hair at a 45 deg angle on the hook, then make 2 loose wraps, and make the 3rd one tight and pull it down to start the spin. I've also found that the hair spins easier on a bare hook shank than one that has thread wound around it. I still use scissors (curved) to trim the hair. I tried exacto knives, but i'm still no good at trimming with blades.

Flyman...what sort of hair do you find works best for this fly?
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Thanks for the kind words.

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Flyman...what sort of hair do you find works best for this fly?
I've been advised to get some caribou hair.
Flyman probably uses his back hair.
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This link will take you to a lengthy pod cast with Chris Helm. He gives a lot of details on spinning deer hair.

http://flyfishohio.com/Chris_Helm_Interview.htm
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I've been advised to get some caribou hair.
Flyman probably uses his back hair.
No, I think he probably uses caribou. Flyman is too much of a "fashion icon" not to utilize the appropriate fashion material in the flies he ties. You can see what I mean in a picture he submitted in the 30" brown thread.

I wear a customized pair of overhauls when I'm fishing

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Old 03-02-2011, 09:22 PM
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Donn, Flyman's belly is waaaay more defined that that guy's.
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Thanks for the kind words.

I've been advised to get some caribou hair.
Flyman probably uses his back hair.

Well my secret is out, I got the idea when I started shaving my NASCAR hero's number before each race. I've been thinking about some other types of body hair, but most of it is too curly.


Really Caribou is great, so is cow elk, and mule deer. Look for hair that is hollow all the way to the tips. You can look at a patch of hair and judge how much of it is hollow by how far down the shaft the black or dark tip extends. Lighter hair is usually better. Chris Helm is the man when it comes to hair, the link given with an interview with his is well worth a listen.
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I've been advised to get some caribou hair.
Don't do it. Caribou is soft hair with lots of waste and not that great. For your small stuff, I like that use northern whitetail or coastal blacktail. Belly hair is shorter in many cases if you can stand the white or just get it dyed.

Some places sell 2x10 inch strips or some such sizes, a real deal if you plan on tying a lot.

Get a tool to pack the hair, don't do too many wraps with your thread (3) max, and use disposable razor blades. I get the two sided and the one sided for different applications. For rounded body work the two sided can be bend for a better cut. For the flat underside or cutting up against the hook the one sided blade has more stability.





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