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Old 08-30-2011, 06:29 PM
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If you want to split the gas expense I would be happy to tag along on a ride to the Soho.

I turned 52 in May; seems the older and more broken down I become the less energy I have to do the things I enjoy most. There were years that I worked well over 40 hours per week managing many employees and multiple jobs but still managed to fish 4 or more times every week.

Maybe I have "LOW- T" ?!?!? LOL

See what happens when I watch TV instead of fishing?
Corbo,

I'll let you know if I decide to head to the SOHO. See what the generation will be and I do on my birthday (saturday). I would prefer to go on Sunday, generally seems a little less crowded on Sundays, especially earlier in the day.

Neal
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Old 08-30-2011, 10:38 PM
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Pineman;

It is a shame that we have not fished together as I would be pleased to land a 25 inch brown with a dainty outfit trout if you can put me over one!

When I moved here last year I hoped to fish more than I have been able; now that I'm "physically" better I'm worn out most weekends from week day work as this heat is beating me up.

The Clinch river seems to have poor recreational flows just like the soho.... when do you guys find time to safely fish them?/
fall when the water turns off,
winter, all the time,
and spring, when it's not raining.....

I like winter the best. you being from ME it will be new but a great time. good hatches on midges on bright sunny days in shallow water.
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Old 08-31-2011, 06:08 AM
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Hey gang;

My cell number 865-255-4840... I can go on Saturday or sundays.

At 52 and after 7 various orthopedic surgeries in just over 4 years I shouldn't be doing construction work; but I do anyway and typically I spend saturday "RECOVERING" LOL. Cold water is very soothing to my leg and lower back.

Haven't fish the Soho since last Fall but think about it several times every day.
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Old 09-15-2011, 03:32 PM
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Question for those that use extra long leader / tippet (9' +) on the tailwaters.

Is there a trick to move the connection from fly line to leader through the rod guides?

Seems like I'm constantly dunking my reel to reach the end of the rod to get the loop-to-loop connection "un-stuck". This is especially bad on the last guide at the tip of the rod.

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Ryan
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Old 09-15-2011, 03:40 PM
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Question for those that use extra long leader / tippet (9' +) on the tailwaters.

Is there a trick to move the connection from fly line to leader through the rod guides?

Seems like I'm constantly dunking my reel to reach the end of the rod to get the loop-to-loop connection "un-stuck". This is especially bad on the last guide at the tip of the rod.

Thanks,

Ryan
Ryan,

Try using a nail knot. If done correctly less prone to getting stuck than a loop connection. You can buy a pretty cheap tool to make the knot or fabricate a cheap device. Just google nail knot and you'll pull up some sites that show how to make the knot.

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Old 09-15-2011, 03:48 PM
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Question for those that use extra long leader / tippet (9' +) on the tailwaters.

Is there a trick to move the connection from fly line to leader through the rod guides?

Seems like I'm constantly dunking my reel to reach the end of the rod to get the loop-to-loop connection "un-stuck". This is especially bad on the last guide at the tip of the rod.

Thanks,

Ryan
Dump the loop, and you will solve your problems. Like pineman said tie nail knots, and keep them small 4-5 wraps and pulled extra tight. I really milk the butt section of a leader with my hand to soften it before tying a nail knot. If you milk the leader and tie the knot well it will slip through the guides with no issues.

Also, try and avoid pulling your line past the nail knot. The only time my nail knot goes into the guides is when reeling up at the end of the day, or if something freakish happens.

Loops are great in theory only, they really negatively effect casting accuracy, and loop control. The loop by nature collapses and kills line energy, and also kicks the leader in undesired directions. IMO it is one of the worst things a person can do to their set up.
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Old 09-15-2011, 04:19 PM
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Thanks for the tips!

I guess the fly line with the integrated loop wasn't such a good choice after-all...

Ryan
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Old 09-15-2011, 05:23 PM
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Thanks for the tips!

I guess the fly line with the integrated loop wasn't such a good choice after-all...

Ryan
Ryan,

Just clip the loop off, and do the nail knot as Waterwolf suggested. It isn't a hard knot to do with the knot tool I use. I tie it at home, unless I mess up a leader and need to replace it on the stream.

Neal

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Old 09-15-2011, 06:45 PM
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The first I do with a new fly line is to cut off the loop. Then as others have said, tie a nail knot or an Albright knot to join the line & leader. A nail knot and an Albright are tied almost identical to each other, the main difference is what you do with the tag end of the leader.

An Albright is easier for me to tie without the loops collapsing on me.

Bill
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Old 09-15-2011, 06:57 PM
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I do the same. The nail knotter tool I've used for years is kind of hard to find in stores anymore. It is made by Loon and called the "brown nail knotter" Item F0912. I keep it attached to my lanyard for on stream fixes if necessary.

I also nail knot a butt section of tippet, usually .021-.023 to the fly line and leave about 15" of tag. I then bloodknot my leader to it. This makes it easy to change out leaders occasionally and not have to re-tie the nail knot everytime. I do replace the butt section every so often or when the tag section gets too short. This has worked for me for years.
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