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Old 08-31-2011, 02:28 PM
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Default Felt vs. Sticky rubber/studded wading boots

I'm about to invest in my first pair of waders/boots and can't decide what to get. For waders I am leaning toward the Rio Gallegos from Patagonia. I decided I better buy something nice to begin with to avoid problems and I am a devout Patagonia fan so there is my reasoning. My boot choice is the Patagonia river walker, but the sole choice is a hard one. I have heard of felt soles being completely banned in some waters and there are several fishing trips on the horizon for me all over the place including the smokies, surrounding tailwaters and in different parts of the country. I have used felt and know how well it works but I have never used the sticky rubber soles. Any suggestions?
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Old 08-31-2011, 03:12 PM
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I think Oregon is one, not sure but there are a couple of others. The best thing is to thoroughly clean and sanitize them in bleach solution. I fished the SH last spring and didymo was everywhere. I soaked my boots in the solution in the tub for about 36 hours, rinsed with hot water, and dried them outside in the sun, turning them to catch the maximum sun.
Fly Fish America did a test on felt and synthetic rubber. Anglers were given one boot with one and another boot with the other. If I recall the felt was given the edge on traction. FWIW, my wife started trout fishing with a pair of Easy Spirit sneakers. Surprisingly, she got good traction in the Smokies.
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Old 08-31-2011, 07:30 PM
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If you wear a size 16 and buy the Simms rubber studded ones and don't like them I will buy whatever you get for yourself as a backup pair.

Seriously I have a pair of the Simms's "Herman Monster" boots (non sexy, no soft leather, old school style) Freestyle. The newer ones look better. I will NEVER go back to felt and I have fished in it since 1976. Rock solid on grip in area tailwaters, even on the angled ledges with slime. On small round rocks like the Holston has they are about the same, maybe a hair better but not signifiicant.

PS..i bought mine after a blow out of my old Orvis boots on the Big Horn last year. the flyshop there in Ft. Smith just laughed when I asked them at the end of the day if they had any 16's, but low and behold they did, and my luck continued as I had a roll of duct tape in my fishing bag to save my fishing earlier that day.

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Old 08-31-2011, 10:59 PM
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I have not used the new soles, but frankly don't buy the BS they are spinning about them. Sure they might work great with studs, but explain to me how that works for those of us that fish out of boats, and especially the folks like me who fish out of rafts. Answer, it doesn't, period.

There is no way I will believe a rubber sole will grip without studs on the angled clinch ledges covered in grease. Felt does a pretty good job, but still can leave you swimming.

Simms claims they received so much negative mail that they are rereleasing felt sole boots next spring.

I will not EVER switch to the rubber, unless someone can prove it is equal to or better then felt.

Screw the tree hugger crowd.
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Simms claims they lost so much market share on boot sales that they are rereleasing felt sole boots next spring.
Apparently the official word though is that it was wrong of them to deny their customers the choice ...

I admit, I took the bait and bought a new pair of vibram Rivershed boots and about killed myself the first time out on the Tellico. I use them on the Elk River and Caney Fork and I get by but not for the mountains. I just got some of the new Korkers and sooo glad to have felt back on my feet!!These will be strictly for the park btw...

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Old 09-01-2011, 06:41 AM
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Korkers, with the svelt sole, best traction on the stream, simms have issues with rubber will break up an old man .
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Old 09-01-2011, 07:10 AM
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Apparently the official word though is that it was wrong of them to deny their customers the choice ...
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I liked that part of their "statement". It is true in part, but when your customer base makes a mass exodus because you tried to dictate what they had to buy, revenues fall like a rock. It is all about the money.

The free market is a wonderful thing.
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Old 09-01-2011, 09:32 AM
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Back to the recommendations, what about calling LRO and talking to them about your plans and see what they say. Budget, fishing location and hiking needs may all come into play.

I still have my felt boots from a large vendor in Maine and yes I clean them off after each outing. They didn't cost much but I would not hike in them very far.
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Old 09-01-2011, 11:45 AM
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I know you said you are set on the Patagonia River Walker, but you might consider a pair of Korkers. With them you can quickly change from felt to rubber to studded rubber to studded felt as the conditions dictate.

I love the Boa lacing system too. As the boots stretch as they get wet a quick turn of the knob snugs them up. And they come off in a snap. Of course, standard laces are also available.

http://www.korkers.com/footwear/fishing.html
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I have not used the new soles, but frankly don't buy the BS they are spinning about them. Sure they might work great with studs, but explain to me how that works for those of us that fish out of boats, and especially the folks like me who fish out of rafts. Answer, it doesn't, period.

There is no way I will believe a rubber sole will grip without studs on the angled clinch ledges covered in grease. Felt does a pretty good job, but still can leave you swimming.

Simms claims they received so much negative mail that they are rereleasing felt sole boots next spring.

I will not EVER switch to the rubber, unless someone can prove it is equal to or better then felt.

Screw the tree hugger crowd.
Waterwolf,
you can borrow mine if you want to go skiing. They really do work better than the felt IMO, and yes, even on the ledges...PS..mine don't have studs in them, just the rubber soles.
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