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Old 12-21-2011, 08:07 PM
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very nice .Appreciate you sharing your ideas & showing your pattern
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Old 12-22-2011, 12:26 PM
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That's fine, but I still think you may have stumbled onto something. I'd still like to know the head first thing. Madison Boats shot a lot of underwater videos of trout earlier this year, and I wonder if he noticed which way the nymphs were heading.

I'd like to find the DVD by the guy that did "The Underwater World of Trout" or something with a similar name. He may have noticed which way.

Anyone have the DVD?

Bill
Bill,
I have noticed that midges swim and move in all directions from reviewing my videos. Well, most of the time I shoot video in a feeding lie that is behind a shoal or obstruction. This causes the underwater vortexes to move the midges/food in all directions. Also; I have noticed that the midges move sideways, forward, etc. in their quest to move to the surface.

*You really should try and get a copy of "The Underwater World of Trout". It is the best video I have ever watched in regards to teaching me something about trout.
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I think some of these flies look great and it is a great idea to see how they look under water. I would suggest adding some tippet to them to see how it affects their presentation. I love the reverse ties of the midges.
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Old 12-22-2011, 12:42 PM
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Shawn-

Regarding "Underwater World of Trout", I sent an e-mail to Ozzie O. who filmed & produced Underwater World, and posed the question to him regarding aquatic insects and trout. His response was that he didn't key in on the behavior of the bugs that the trout were feeding upon. He also said that he was concerned about using too much high intensity lighting for shooting videos, and that it might affect the natural behavior of trout. (Wish I had saved his e-mail, and I would have posted it).

So, I quess that the question is still unanswered about bugs going head first or tail first down the current. I'm tying some reversed FB BHPT's and Prince's to try them out, still think that it's an interesting idea from OleSMoke. Proof is in the catch.

Bill

P.S. At first, its a little weird tying a reversed fly because you have to think and then tie it backwards. You have to build a thread dam in front of and behind the bead to hold it in position, and use head cement to hold it, otherwise it slides down the hook bend.

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Old 12-22-2011, 01:15 PM
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Bill,
This video shows how diverse the movement of benthic life is on the river. You will notice bugs, sediment moving in all directions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7ikz...2&feature=plcp
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Old 12-22-2011, 04:03 PM
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Thanks for the link.

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Old 12-23-2011, 02:06 AM
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I'm more interested in what level in the water column my fly is in verses it's orientation.
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Old 12-23-2011, 07:28 AM
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One new technique I have discovered is bumping a midge! I have started to bump my midges to give them swimming action and to act as a catalyst for the fish to strike. It works fantastic on my maggot midge.

Visualize this fly being bumped erratically to mimic the benthic life in my aforementioned video!


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Old 12-24-2011, 12:13 PM
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The ascending larvae in the video reminded of Gary La Fontine's Bowtie ( halo?)Midge. His pattern seems to copy not only the look but also the movement with the maribou tail.

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