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09-29-2008, 01:03 PM
www.redgoldfilm.com (http://www.redgoldfilm.com)

Im sure you all have seen this.
I don't want to talk politics, but how can someone support this pebble mine?

09-29-2008, 01:35 PM
Support what?

09-29-2008, 10:18 PM
Palin aggressively opposed the "clean water initiative" on the August ballot in Alaska (which then failed), favoring instead, foreign mining company desires for fewer government regulations controlling their toxic effluent into salmon streams.

Atleast thats what I have heard, you never know with the media. I sure hope they are wrong.

Gerry Romer
09-29-2008, 10:40 PM
Support what?

You're kidding, right?

Please tell me you're kidding.

This has been very much a hot-button issue since last January. All of the popular sport fishing magazines carried a full-page, full-color ad sponsored by every sport-fishing manufacturer you can thin of. The ad was an "open letter to the governor of the state of Alaska", asking all concerned fishermen to sign a petition (online) which would encourage the governor to support the local citizen's initiative... the Alaska Clean Waters Initiative.

A citizen's initiative - the Clean Water Initiative -was placed on the ballot in Alaska. It would have placed some very strict but necessary and legitimate controls on the mining industry in Alaska regarding environmental and pollution issues.

Citizen's initiatives are held above the political fray. Elected officials are prohibited from taking a public stance on citizen initiatives. They are supposed to "pass or fail" on their own merits, sans any governmental "influence".

In spite of this, and prior to the voting, Governor Sarah Plain publicly announced her support in favor of the mining companies and in opposition to the many environmental groups, native American tribes, and local sport and commercial fishing groups (which would ostensibly include even her own husband, Todd) that had worked very hard to promote the initiative. Even Alaska's senator Ted Stevens had come out in support of the initiative and against the mining companies (stating that he didn't believe the mining companies were capable of adequately protecting the environment).

At the very least, Governor Palin's actions are unethical. Under state law they may even be illegal.

The proposed "Pebble Mine" could (likely would) destroy the world's largest sockeye salmon fishery. Something like 95% of the salmon consumed in the U.S. comes out of Bristol Bay. The headwaters of Bristol Bay would be destroyed if the mining companies are allowed to construct the world's largest open pit mine in this pristine environment.

I don't consider myself to be a tree-hugger. But this is way too much...

Gerry Romer

BTW It's too late to support the initiative. On August 27th - just days before being named as John McCain's running mate - Sarah Palin successfully killed the citizen's initiative. The citizen's movement to control the impact of the world's largest open pit mine (at least 2 miles in diameter - picture Mt. LeConte gone and replaced by a 2 mile wide hole) and a 20 square mile tailings, is still actively fighting the development of the mine. For more info, please go to: http://www.renewableresourcescoalition.org/


09-30-2008, 07:31 AM
That was my point Gerry. I don't think there would be a single person on these forums supporting the actions. The videos don't do justice to the area, especially for those who have fished Alaska.

10-02-2008, 07:45 AM
Don't get me wrong, I am totally against the mine as well, but Sarah Palin didn't kill the initiative. I disagree with what she did, but by definition, a ballot initiative has to be voted on by the citizens of Alaska. They did and it failed. So you can blame the residents of Alaska for that.

Gerry Romer
10-02-2008, 01:30 PM
You're right. I probably should have said that the governor merely facilitated the defeat of the initiative by encouraging Northern Dynasty to spend millions of dollars in the region promising thousands of jobs that would never exist.

The people of Alaska may have defeated the initiative, but the people in the region which will be most impacted by this unconscionable proposal voted overwhelmingly in support of the initiative.

I encourage everyone to read the Renewable Resources Coalition press release and visit their website for information on how to help continue the fight against this project. The ballot initiative may have failed, but they have not given up and are investigating other measures.


Gerry Romer

10-03-2008, 08:30 AM
Alaskans must be really gullible

Gerry Romer
10-03-2008, 09:57 AM
yep... my point exactly