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JoeFred
02-21-2015, 03:34 PM
http://www.smokystreams.com/mbpics/arcgis_grsm_fish_dist_barriers.jpg

Image credit: www.arcgis.com
The Park Fisheries trout distribution map has been made available online by the National Park Service GIS Department located in the Park. To access it, go to www.arcgis.com, select the “Gallery” tab and search for “GRSM_FISH” using the “Search for Layers” menu option. One should see the distribution layer and barriers layer. (To see the “Gallery” tab, it may be necessary to widen the window.)

This information is also available on the map side of the newly revised Park Fishing Reguations brochure available at visitor centers, some ranger stations and elsewhere.

The Park “Fish” web page is at www.nps.gov/grsm/naturescience/fish.htm (http://www.nps.gov/grsm/naturescience/fish.htm)

buzzmcmanus
02-21-2015, 07:21 PM
Sweet!!! I swung by your booth, twice, at the Southern Trout thing in Pigeon Forge last month. You were busy giving demos both times.

JoeFred
02-21-2015, 10:04 PM
Sorry, Man. I hate we didn't get to chat. Next time hurl something at me to get my attention... other than insults. Ducky pretty much had that covered. ;)

duckypaddler
02-22-2015, 09:22 AM
Awesome!
Thanks for sharing Fred:biggrin:

As everyone can see there are no fish in the Raven Fork so don't bother:rolleyes:

I'm gonna now use this to harass Mr. Kulp, as I can quickly see many great places that have fish but are supposedly above the distribution lines:biggrin: I know it's just a product of limited funding:frown:

I wonder if someone had the energy and FUNDS to totally redo the trout distribution map would do what the recent stream mapping did and like double the amount of water we have that contain fish;)

And Nathan or whoever else is brave, looks like we need to get up further on Buck Fork. I want to get above the barrier to catch a "Buck Fork Brookie"

duckypaddler
03-22-2015, 02:22 PM
I took all the appropriate layers that a backcountry fisherman may want from the park service data and made a custom map. I think this is the best way of dreaming up Smokies adventures:biggrin:

Hope some of you like it

http://arcg.is/1FQ6MgW

JoeFred
03-27-2015, 09:26 AM
Oh wow! Nicely done, James. Look for maps from us in the future to call out such things as landform and historical POIs, added trail difficulty ratings, and more detail on potentionally dangerous crossings, etc., and to showing less about fish distribution... instead referring to information about the latter to that provided by yours and the park's publications. (Perhaps one day the park web site will include a PDF of the undated fishing regulations with the distribution map on the back.)

We also plan to transition almost fully away from pre-printed park maps moving in the direction of more digital media versions and at some point... pretty much going to only downloadable products, many of which will be printable. Stream images for GPS-enabled devices are still in our future.

I want to take this opportunity to once again recognize the many hours of time and arduous work required of Steve, Matt, volunteers and especially the park service seasonal fisheries interns and technicians in order to provide the public with the distribution information collected during most of the 1990's. We were honored to have showcased this treasure chest of treasured waters on our maps and delighted to have been able to give back to the fisheries cause a portion of the proceeds from our sales. For those sales I say thanks again to many of you on this forum, to Great Smoky Mountains Association staff and to Byron and Daniel at LRO for their patronage and encouragement.

– JF

softhackle
04-12-2015, 07:16 PM
Thank ou for all the work you've put in on mapping GSMNP streams. You've produced a lot of great information.

Noonan
04-13-2015, 08:28 AM
Thank ou for all the work you've put in on mapping GSMNP streams. You've produced a lot of great information.

I second this. Thank you all!!

JoeFred
05-07-2015, 01:36 PM
Thanks for all the kind words. Here's some info snipits on the first of the new-look Park maps. Planned are at least three other watershed/sector maps of the 40 inch wide variety. Of course the PDF can be viewed on your smart phone or tablet in the backcountry or at work... on lunch break. :smile: Again, kudos to Matt for all his efforts in making the distribution data more widely available.
http://www.smokystreams.com/mbpics/thread17945_pic2.jpg

http://www.smokystreams.com/mbpics/thread17945_pic3.jpg

http://www.smokystreams.com/mbpics/thread17945_pic4.jpg

buzzmcmanus
05-07-2015, 05:21 PM
I didn't realize there was a giant crop circle with a big "c" in it in the middle of the park. I learn something new everyday. ;) There really are aliens among us.

mattblick
05-08-2015, 07:16 AM
I didn't realize there was a giant crop circle with a big "c" in it in the middle of the park. I learn something new everyday. ;) There really are aliens among us.

This should permanently silence the skeptics from claiming a few pranksters with wood planks and string make the crop circles.

JoeFred
05-08-2015, 08:47 AM
Your and Buzz's parents should have taught you to go indoors during crop dusting.

technowannabe
05-08-2015, 04:20 PM
I took all the appropriate layers that a backcountry fisherman may want from the park service data and made a custom map. I think this is the best way of dreaming up Smokies adventures:biggrin:

Hope some of you like it

http://arcg.is/1FQ6MgW
JoeFred and Ducky - those are really cool. Great resources. Thanks!

ISO1600
07-18-2016, 09:16 AM
I took all the appropriate layers that a backcountry fisherman may want from the park service data and made a custom map. I think this is the best way of dreaming up Smokies adventures:biggrin:

Hope some of you like it

http://arcg.is/1FQ6MgW

ducky, or anybody who may have the desktop install of ArcGIS, or the pro version-

could somebody be so kind as to export one or some of these awesome layers to a KML for me?

NDuncan
08-03-2016, 11:17 AM
I have been working on something for Garmin devices in ArcGIS Pro. Still in progress.

I have a GREAT map that works well in the Avenza Pdf map app (free for your iphone) the iphone does work OK in the park with its internal GPS. Have had some areas where I got no GPS signal, but pretty good in a lot of remote places even without any cellular access.

ISO1600
08-03-2016, 03:17 PM
I have been working on something for Garmin devices in ArcGIS Pro. Still in progress.

I have a GREAT map that works well in the Avenza Pdf map app (free for your iphone) the iphone does work OK in the park with its internal GPS. Have had some areas where I got no GPS signal, but pretty good in a lot of remote places even without any cellular access.

I'm a heavy Google user, and have been building some custom Google maps for fishing and camping. I'm trying to get a KML of this map so I could easily import into Google MyMaps.

NDuncan
08-03-2016, 09:52 PM
Ok that's good to know. I have exported from Arcgis to google earth format. That's actually a million times easier than to Garmin anyways. The map still needs to work with labeling and fonts and colors to be asthetically better.

ISO1600
08-04-2016, 09:19 AM
Ok that's good to know. I have exported from Arcgis to google earth format. That's actually a million times easier than to Garmin anyways. The map still needs to work with labeling and fonts and colors to be asthetically better.

If you could email me a KML that would be amazing- crawdiddychris at gmail dot com

elkhaircaddis
08-04-2016, 11:42 AM
Your devices will ultimately fail you! Go paper

ISO1600
08-04-2016, 02:42 PM
Your devices will ultimately fail you! Go paper

haha I know, I know.
I have the NatGeo topo maps for all of N GA, the park, and Nantahala Gorge. I like to have the digital maps for quicker/easier planning and research. I do recognize that they are of limited use or value when you are deep in the woods.

elkhaircaddis
08-04-2016, 05:53 PM
Well if you have both digital and paper that has to be nearly fail proof.