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Troutman
06-24-2015, 12:51 PM
I have been fly fishing out of my canoes for several years now and I'm thinking about upgrading to a kayak. Went to a seminar on kayak fishing this past weekend at Cabelas in North Georgia. I want to be able to stand easier and cast and really liked the new Old Town predator MX. anyone have this kayak?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18-bGdd0wy0

Grumpy
06-24-2015, 10:20 PM
I've used one for a day, don't know if i'd go with it or the Native Slayer myself, both good boats IMO. Sure beat's rowing other's in a drifter all day:eek:

Grumpy

Knik
06-25-2015, 12:24 PM
http://http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h159/TNtrapper_2006/20140911_135509.jpg (http://s63.photobucket.com/user/TNtrapper_2006/media/20140911_135509.jpg.html)

Troutman
06-25-2015, 12:59 PM
I am looking at both the Old town predator MX and the Jackson big rig. Both are 12 ft kayaks made for the river fisherman. Speed is not real important for me, but stability, turnability, ease of standing, a clear front deck and the ability to use a drag chain anchor system. I really like the molded -in handles of the predator, the way the seat flips back out of the way when standing, the deck is clear for the fly line and is has a cool drainage channel system and self draining one way scupper plugs. 34" width hull. The mounting points on the kayak and rod storage is pretty well thought out. The hull also has a Lifetime warranty! I met Randy, one of the pro staffers for old town and hobie, and he is a river fly fisherman and had a lot of input on design.
The Jackson big rig is very wide and stable, also designed by river fishermen, I like it also and it has alot of great features along with its "Made in TN". I haven't been able to look at it in person yet though.

Knik
06-25-2015, 01:08 PM
Well that pic didn't work. Anyways. .... take a look at Diablo Paddlesports "Amigo". My girlfriend and I are both using these and really like them.....they are very stable. They are a cross between a paddle board and sit on top yak, she uses a "Larry Chair" and I just sit on a cooler. Austin Canoe and Kayak carries them and usually offers free shipping. I'm sure most other yaks are alot faster on the water, but stability while standing was the deciding factor for us.

MedlenAround
06-25-2015, 07:55 PM
Troutman -

I did a lot of searching when I was looking for a fishing kayak a few months back. Stability and casting while standing were high on my wishlist too. The Old Town Predator MX and Jackson Big Rig were on my radar. The Hobie Pro Angler was just way too expensive.

I ended up buying a Nucanoe Frontier 12. They are ridiculously stable and have a super large/flat deck to cast from. I have the stand-up casting bar also and it helps tremendously as a 3rd point of contact. I'd recommend that as an option no matter what boat you get. The cool thing about the Nucanoe Frontier 12 is you can throw a 2nd seat in. I floated the Clinch for the first time this past weekend (twice actually) and took my brother with me...one seated and one standing/fishing.

Check them out, there's plenty of YouTube videos and pictures out there. River Sports on Sutherland Ave. is a dealer and probably has a couple in stock. I've been beyond satisfied with mine. A boxed transom also gives you a trolling motor or 2.5hp outboard option. I lucked out by finding mine on Craigslist. Here's a picture of mine with a single seat...

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg279/sirsqueege/Misc%20Fish%20Pics/P6250906.jpg (http://s250.photobucket.com/user/sirsqueege/media/Misc%20Fish%20Pics/P6250906.jpg.html)

and 2 seats....

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg279/sirsqueege/Misc%20Fish%20Pics/P6250905.jpg (http://s250.photobucket.com/user/sirsqueege/media/Misc%20Fish%20Pics/P6250905.jpg.html)

Good Luck!

Bran
06-26-2015, 08:19 AM
That's one sweet video!! That guy had some nerve standing through those riffles, the boat was moving along pretty good. One of my friends was talking to me a couple weeks ago about the Jackson boats. He's got a Native U12, and a couple of Jackson Coosa rigs. Here's a video of Drew Gregory, the designer, fishing it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-1nq7m97lo

For what it's worth he was telling me that it's not nearly as easy for him as Drew makes it look in the video. I found the same on the U12, I can stand and cast but there's always a little sense of being tense, which of course wears you out quicker than, say, standing in a Jon boat.

Troutman
06-26-2015, 10:44 AM
Yeah, I met Drew a few years ago when they first came out with the original Coosa. They were starting up the riverbassin kayak tournament trail and had one out of the BPS in Sevierville. I did not participate since I like to fish for fun and not competition. . The way they do kayak tournaments though are alot better than the way jet boat or standard fishing tournaments operate. They issue out a measuring board with a number on it to the participates. The fish caught are measured on that board and a digital picture is taken and then the fish is immediately released right back to where it was caught. they go by length rather than weight and the angler with the longest total measurement of two bass , either largemouth, smallie, spotted, coosa, shoalie wins. I did go up there to meet several of the river bassin forum members I had talked to over the years that were in the tournament. Drew is not a big guy. Maybe about 150lbs and 5.5 ft tall and has good agility. He walks around on that boat like its a surfboard on the north shore of Hawaii. They made the new HD coosa and Big Rig for us anglers more in the 200lb 6ft tall range and not 20 years old and bulletproof anymore. He is a nice guy and very good angler. I don't think he fly fishes though. He enjoys throwing big swimbaits with a baitcaster.
I have a couple of friends that bought the original coosa and they had a hard time fly casting from it. A lot more movement trying to stand and double haul from a kayak that slinging a crankbait with a standard rod.
The new designs are now wider and more suited for flycasting. A big thing to remember when on these is to keep your head and shoulders within the width of the boat. Once you lean over the side, you can flip. same as in a canoe.

I like those nucanoes. I did look at the rental they have at riversports. Might rent it for a day to get a feel of it.